Dear son, don’t let Robin Thicke be a lesson to you

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  • Janet Ontario, OR
    Sept. 1, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    I am not going to make a strong defense of Alan Thicke and Gloria Loring's son, Robin. Most DN readers would be offended by the uncensored version of his big hit, "Blurred Lines." However, if you actually saw the "performance," he was dressed modestly and hardly into Miley's outrageous behavior. She is obviously troubled and seeking whatever kind of attention and fame she can get. I'm not sure if he had rehearsed the song the way it came out. He isn't talking about it, but after the show,he and his wife took their three-year-old on vacation. Actually, none of the young people I know are talking about it or bringing attention to it. It's the outraged adults who won't let it go. That said, when I complain to my grandchildren about song lyrics, they say, "Oh Grandma, we hear worse than that many times a day at school." The skunk is so out of the bag among our youth! My daughter is a YW president with a teenager of her own, and she tells me stories that keep me up at night.

  • Rural sport fan DUCHESNE, UT
    Aug. 31, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    Bro Ben.

    You are seriously NOT getting the point.

    Do you truly think that since "We cannot protect our kids from themselves. Eventually, they are going to make their own decisions and make their own way irrespective of us." that we should just throw in the towel, without at least trying to teach them right from wrong?

    Do you REALLY think that teaching your kids is "getting in your children's way"?

    There we have the perfect example of derelict parenting. Thanks for that.

    And Scientist...sadly, none of those important things will be brought to our attention in any mainstream medium, because far too many people are paying far too much money to use up every available bit of bandwidth and time with this type of trash.

    Sorry, if you think the decay of our society is missed a few classes, you may need to study some social sciences and get a better concept of the reality we all live in.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Aug. 31, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    Isn't this ironic (or there is another word for it) - LDS people who insist that ALL Mormons are not tainted by the actions of a few, are now characterizing and condemning ALL entertainers and Hollywood because of the actions of a few...

    What Miley did was an embarrassment, but it is hypocritical (oh, there is that word) for this letter to dismiss ALL of Hollywood as worthless and meaningless, especially in a letter that is clearly obsessing with the Miley incident. If Hollywood is so worthless, why are you all making such a big deal about this?

    Move on already! There are truly important things going on in the world.

  • Boo Ya!!! Richfield, UT
    Aug. 31, 2013 10:56 a.m.

    Re: cjb


  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 31, 2013 1:32 a.m.

    Am I supposed to be impressed buy a father who says he'll kick his sons but up and down the street?

  • liberate Sandy, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 10:22 p.m.

    A letter is good but there is nothing better than a good example for a child to follow. We can write books, teach lessons, send letters, discipline, etc. all we want. But the single most important determinant of how a child will act is whether they have a good example in their lives, preferable their parents. Children with good examples at home will realize the VMAs, movies, tv, radio, internet, etc. are all just entertainment and nothing to emulate, without us writing a long winded note to pin to their clothes when they get older, although I do agree with the content.

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    Aug. 30, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    I have three kids, a teen age son, and a grade school daughter and younger son. None of them are talking about the raunchy VMA show on the MTV. You want to know why? We didn't watch it. Not on the TV, not on the interwebs, nothing. So... no conversation about what's her name's get up or the middle aged dude grinding up against the 20 year old. Instead we were having fun as a family, perhaps watching the discover channel, or the science channel, my kids love that one. Point is, don't let your tv be a baby sitter, if you see something you don't want your kids, to see, turn the channel. Don't let the tv be a baby sitter, but don't go getting all "Think of the Children" when you hear about something raunchy on the TV. Personal responsibility.

  • postaledith Freeland, WA
    Aug. 30, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    Are you kidding me? One no-talent girl makes a spectacle of herself and that's a reflection on ALL of Hollywood? I don't think so. Justin Timberlake gave a classy, very talented performance. So did Bruno Mars and Taylor Swift.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Aug. 30, 2013 9:08 p.m.

    Is that Alan thickes son?

  • Protecting This House Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 5:47 p.m.

    Seriously. This entire letter is nothing more than the pent up frustration of a "man" who will realize fortune and fame. Thus he feels justified in throwing around ridiculous assumptions and stereotypes. "All alone, in his big, empty, lonely house"? Please. Last time I checked, Robin Thicke can be found going off about how gorgeous his WIFE is, and the fact that they are so involved in show business together. This dad has no clue how they interact, or manage their relationship. Not the slightest. The snap judgement and assuming going on by outsiders who will always be looking in, is the real problem with society. Everyone should handle the skeletons in their own closets, before esteeming themselves and attempting to teach their children how wrong the whole of successful entertainers and artists lives are (based primarily on envy and disdain for their own boring, uneventful, meaningless lives) - when a person has zero personal experience with any of it. 50% of married couples decide to part ways. Being married (his prescription for a fulfilling life) can be just as tough as all the money and fame, if not more so. Don't kid yourself, dad.

  • Brother Benjamin Franklin Orem, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    I think you all need to reread this letter and pay more attention to the fact that bad parenting is contributing to this problem. When you have parents that completely disregard social norms and routine parenting styles, it is no wonder we produce Miley Cyrus and Robin Thicke.

    If you ask most Religious leaders, child development experts, and higher education researchers, they will all concur that derelict parenting contributed to the major problem children that are now adults today. The problem is that our children never grew up because of extreme parenting tactics and vain attempts to protect them from a world that was going to corrupt them anyway.

    We cannot protect our kids from themselves. Eventually, they are going to make their own decisions and make their own way irrespective of us.

    Stop getting in your children's way. Allow them to grow up at their pace and see the world for themselves. Parents can be like government sometimes if they are not careful--they cause a lot of problems as a result of getting in the way and not allowing people to just live their lives.

  • md Cache, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    @Brother Ben

    I don't think I read the same letter as you. I think this man is correct in his assessment of the natural man in this world. I am happy he wrote this. I will forward it to my teenager.

  • Brother Benjamin Franklin Orem, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    I am concerned by the harsh, extreme, and untrusting tone of this letter. Have you the audacity to write a letter in such a way that sends the message that you do not have the ability to entrust your son with women and reponsibility is troubling to me.

    We need to teach these things, but I fear parents nowadays are resorting to extreme and emotionally hurtful methods of teaching these things to their sons and daughters.

    People know that the reason kids end up messed up are because of derelict parents who resorted to scare tactics and threats. The motto of such irresponsible parenting is "Do as I say, not as I do".

    I personally think if sons and daughters are getting letters, then we need to write a letter to uncompromising parents who are the same way so they don't get off the hook either.

    For that matter, why not include grandparents, aunts and uncles, in-laws, cousins, friends, religious leaders, teachers, counselors, principals, the local school board, the dog, the cat, the fish, and on and on? After all, they are all libel to be corrupted too,

    These letters mischaracterize fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, and pop culture.

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    By all means... let's keep beating this dead horse! Miley and Robin are laughing all the way to the bank as this has stayed in the news all week... ridiculous, get over it, move on people.

  • Red Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    Great article!

    Thanks for taking a stand and letting the world know that TV, Hollywood, and any other poor excuse for entertainment is creating a false image of women.

    Sad that everyone is going along with it just so they can make some money and giggle like they are the smartest people around.

    We are all going to stand accountable someday.

    Let's try to learn how to Stand Up Tall while we still can.

    Or why don't you go hide under a rock now and stop your negative influence, because that is where you are going to want to hide later.

    Do us all a favor and do the right thing!

  • InspectorC Wasatch Front, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    Great letter!

    I've been wondering when someone was finally going to put some of the blame for this Miley Cyrus fiasco onto Robin Thicke, her dancing partner!! He's been getting away totally unscathed, when his slimey song and dance routine was the basis for this whole incident.

    And then, the blame should also be partially shifted to Miley's agent, the show producers, etc. who ALL had a hand in this piece of filth.

  • vangroovin West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    Love it! Well said.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Nicely said. There are many things that could be said about the people who seem to dominate the entertainment industry, but unmanly, disloyal, manipulative and lustful sums it up perfectly. The more we turn them off, the happier we will be.

    Aug. 30, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Excellent column! The number one thing we can do to make our daughters' future brighter is to raise our sons well. (and vice versa.)

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    Well said! Hollywood is full of nothing.... really nothing, just emptiness wrapped up with a bright ribbon and loud music.