JSB said: I wouldn't mind liberalizing the liquor laws in Utah if the
changes were also accompanied by much more severe penalties for alcohol abuse.
Trouble is they are already excessive in that a hit and run is less
of a fine and penalty than a DUI, this is why there has been an increase in hit
and runs since the DUI's laws passed about every other safety law.The majority of drinkers are responsible or there would be millions of deaths
a day, because that's how many folks are drinking at any given moment in
this nation.I see cell phone users, driving like drunk drivers
daily, and yet because it's about religious beliefs instead of actual
safety they are allowed to continue to risk others lives.Drunks
don't buy expensive wine, kids don't order wine thru the mail, and
seeing drinks poured doesn't force children to become alcoholics.
The cost of alcohol consumption is already too high in our country. Let's
continue to let Utah do its own thing, and ignore the critics. The state already
must absorb most of the cost of public damages that come from alcohol abuse,
state run stores are one way that cost can be recouperated. It's time to
stop worrying that we won't be approved by the state of California.
@CedariteIt usually isn't the "raging alcoholics" who drive
drunk, or impaired and don't think they are. My past experience as a DUI
enforcement officer showed that while the occasional "raging alcoholic"
was involved in a traffic fatality, it was more often the casual drinker who
injured/killed another in a DUI. 4-5 beers or glasses of wine with dinner, and
you are over the limit. You want wine with dinner? OK, but someone has to keep
count of the number of drinks you have. Designated drivers and regulations on
the sale and consumption of wines and liquors and beer are what keep folks alive
and out of the emergency rooms.
george- why do some people think everyone who has a drink does so to get drunk?
I admit I have been drunk. Never have I driven drunk however, and the vast
majority of times when I do drink, it's a glass of wine or a beer with
dinner. The problem in this state is, youth don't learn how to drink
responsibly. They are sheltered from it like it's the black death. Then,
when they do try it, they are usually binge type drinkers. They treat alcohol
like it's a party liquid instead of an adult beverage meant to be consumed
responsibly by mature adults over 21. Don't believe me? Come to a party in
my neighborhood, and I'll prove to you that adults can indeed have a few
drinks while socializing together, and not get drunk. It happens. The truth
shall set you free.
3grandslams: the wine lovers who have a glass of wine with dinner are not
generally the raging alcoholics who drive drunk and kill people, attack children
and all the other things you listed.
Way to go Utah! For wine lovers you are low on the list. For families that
suffer because they've lost loved ones to drunk drivers, you are number #1!
For families divided, abused, divorced or bankrupt because of alcohol abuse,
your are a godsend! For children who are ignored, abandoned or insulted because
their parent or parents worship the wine bottle more than quality family time,
you are a hero! Keep up the good work.
Deseret News,There is no justification for your censoring this comment.
It is pertinent and complies with all your rules. Please post it without
prejudice.As well as restrictive liquor laws Utah also ranks among
the states with the lowest citizens rights of freedom from religion.********************
A person can drink wine with out getting drunk. That I'd like to see. I
doubt a Utah person knows that you don't have a drink and not get drunk. We
are not talking about Lays potato chips.
ParkCityAggie,no legitimate health-safety issues.HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh,
please stop, you're killing me! My sides are aching!!
If a pro-alcohol group gives Utah low marks for the availability of alcohol,
I'm going to take that as a compliment.
Good for us. Who cares what they think.
As a State it's time to practice what we preach... free market principals
and the reining in of the nanny-state mentality. Way too much government
over-reach; our antiquated liquor laws are simply meant to be punitive to anyone
who chooses to exercises their right to be an adult. There are no legitimate
health-safety issues being regulated, our laws are purposely excessive for no
good public purpose.
Once again the backwards State of Utopia attempting to legislate morality &
that moron Valentine leading the way! When will these people realize that not
everyone in this State is Mormon or religious?... Never mind, stupid question.
I wouldn't mind liberalizing the liquor laws in Utah if the changes were
also accompanied by much more severe penalties for alcohol abuse. Drunk driving
1st offense: $10,000 and one year suspension of all driving privileges. 2nd
offense: Permanent revocation of driving privileges. Other alcohol related
offenses also much more severe. If a guy has a glass of wine, that isn't a
problem but if the guy's judgement is impaired by his alcohol consumption,
then he should not be in a situation in which he could risk the health, safety
and security of others.
So what? This is just another in a regular flow of "ratings" by various
special interest groups that really have no merit or usefulness. Others include
the gun control advocates, "poverty" groups, teachers unions, and the
like.Utah has many fine qualities and we do not need to fret about
what some hyper special interest group does not like about Utah. If they do not
want to live here (and most of the critics do NOT live here!) then they are free
to live somewhere else.And, as a wine drinker, it is pretty easy to
get good wines in Utah, although it would be nice if they were sold in regular
retail stores, instead of locked up in (inefficient and costly to the taxpayers)
state run stores.Salud!