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  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Aug. 25, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Much of what was traditionally the domain of 2 year colleges in Utah is now being done by Area Technical Centers. These facilities do an excellent job of preparing young people with specific skills to enter the workplace as effective, contributing members of our society.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Aug. 23, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    Utah also has a very unique demographic wherein we have the highest percentage of people with a two-year degree. Offering four-year degrees in no way prohibits the acquisition of a two-year degree. Several of the colleges such as Weber and Dixie are still required by law to fulfill the role of community college by being open-enrollment, offer associates degrees and professional certifications, etc. But with so many people in the population more willing to forego further education rather than move, if there's not any four-year option they will simply leave school. They enter the workforce with an AA or AS, rather than transferring to get a BA or doing a professional certification. It's quite a bit easier for CSCC, because if a student finishes the AA, there's no reason to move if they'd like to transfer to a four-year institution such as the U or UVU. While everyone is jumping on the train to find the hidden agendas of those four-year institutions, maybe question what motives the president of CSCC might have in making her statements.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 23, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Two year schools are much lighter on their feet in responding to changing economic conditions. Another thing to consider, the teaching degree for two year schools is the masters, and in some departments gifted people without degrees can teach. This means much lower costs. Why not? The PhD does not automatically make one a good teacher. As an aside the PhD glut was foisted on higher ed by the Carnegie endowments. Before that the standard teaching degree was the masters, and remained such much longer in Britain. For the first half of the 20th century British masters profs could run circles around the typical American PhD. Utah is suffering from 4-year academic creep, and 4-year academic creeps.

  • donahoe NSL, UT
    Aug. 23, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Let's think out loud what more state colleges might mean:
    Might more programs mean more university administrators (didn't the presidents just get raises?? Might that cost burden mean less funding for the two established state universities, UoU and USU?
    Might lack of funding slow the academic ranking climb of UoU and USU? Aren't top research universities (AAU members) more economically valuable than regional state schools?