Questions from the Swallow fiasco

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  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    Aug. 23, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    So Mike Richards, your argument is that we should trust the people to elect their leaders?

    On these very message boards you've railed against the fact that we amended the Constitution to allow the people to elect Senators rather than letting the legislatures select them.

    This is why a lot of us have such a hard time with your positions. They change constantly. You end up arguing against yourself.

    The author of the article showed the pros and cons of each position. It would ultimately be up to the PEOPLE to change the state Constitution- but then, YOU might not trust them to make that decision.

    And BYUalum, I'm a moderate independent and I think that "Swallow fiasco," fits the issue nicely. And, by the way, authors of newspaper articles rarely write their own headlines- that would be the copy editors.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 23, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    one vote,
    RE: "He gets a pass and the right is all over Sim Gill for conducting an objective investigation".

    Bad comparison to begin with... but lets look at it.

    I haven't heard anybody calling for Sim Gill's impeachment. I have for Swallow (even from Republicans).

    I haven't heard anybody asking for a Constitutional amendment to get rid of Sim Gill. We just heard it from the Left for Swallow.

    And yet... you think Swallow is getting a pass, and Gill is getting too much attention. Amazing.

    I guess if you call the Left calling for impeachment and a constitutional amendment for Swallow "a pass". And nobody calling for either for Gill "the right being all over Sim Gill".

    I have advocated the same for both of them. Vote them out next chance you get.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 23, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    You really think the Swallow issue is reason to amend the Constitution?

    I've heard of not letting a good crisis go to waste, but changing the CONSTITUTION in reaction to the Swallow having some dirty dealings before taking office... seems a little extreme.

    I say let the electorate take him out the next chance they get. He's not doing any damage today (IF the media could just leave him alone). I mean he's not out there running around looking to get in more situations like the one he got pulled into before he was elected to be the AG.

    Why is everybody in such a hurry? We've had dirty politicians before. We've never had an impeachment before, we've never a Constitutional amendment to get rid of a politician before. Why is Swallow so different? I don't get the obsession with Swallow. He's just another politician who made a mistake! If it's keeping him from doing his job... unelected him next chance you get! It's not that long. I can't believe the extremes his enemies are going to.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 22, 2013 6:44 p.m.

    By all means, don't trust the people. Don't allow them to elect someone whom they find qualified to hold public office. Make everything an appointment. Let the Government appoint his friends to all offices. Take the people out of politics. Why not just appoint a King and be done with it?

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    Aug. 22, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    "5. Forty-three of the 50 states currently provide for the election of the attorney general, and none of those states has reversed course, indicating general satisfaction with this process. "

    That's a lot like saying "All forty three of the people who survived cancer did not die, therefore cancer does not kill people."

    Not saying the AG should or shouldn't be elected, but lets at least use real arguments.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 22, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    He gets a pass and the right is all over Sim Gill for conducting an objective investigation. The buddy system rules Utah.

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Aug. 22, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    I agree w/ BYU alum.

    Swallow is innocent. He is actually more than that, he is a saint. We all know that KSL and the Dnews are Communist liberal media outlets who will stop at nothing to destroy the LDS Church and GOP in this state.

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Aug. 22, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    I found this article refreshingly non-partisan. I would not have known the author was a democrat if not for the disclosure at the bottom. His tone is not nearly as harsh as several prominent conservatives such as Dan Liljenquist (not really a left-wing democrat) and others within the Utah legislature. Even though he may not have technically committed any crimes (still under investigation), Mr. Swallow has definitely exercised very poor judgement which is not a strong endorsement for Utah's top law-enforcement officer. I think fiasco is appropriate on many fronts, the most simple being that the Republican-dominated legislature had no choice but to appropriate millions of tax-payer funds to investigate him. Mr. Swallow really should just step down.

    I think this article is a good starting point to evaluate the current system and gives us some good things to think about.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 22, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    I dislike the term, "Swallow fiasco!" This is from a left-wing democrat who wrote this article.

    John Swallow is a good, decent man who deserves to be found innocent, instead of the other way around. So many in the media and academia believe he is guilty until proven innocent. This is NOT our justice system!

    Why are people so slanted and evil-thinking today?