Snowden reporter: Won't be silenced by detention

Spokesman says U.S. was tipped off that man would be detained

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  • Lilalips Attleboro, MA
    Aug. 24, 2013 4:19 p.m.

    Thank Heaven for Edward Snowden. He is a hero. How would we ever know the extent to which our own government could spy on us if it were not for him?

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Aug. 20, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    @Tators --

    "I've thought through my reasoning and am still comfortable with it. "

    Yet we still have an illegal detention -- you yourself said he wasn't considered a terrorist threat -- of a man who has committed no treason. He isn't even a citizen of the countries affected by Snowden. How do you excuse the illegal detention?

    "You supposedly quoted me twice. Once correctly. Once not."

    I wasn't quoting you, I was stating the principle implied in your quote. I would have used italics if they had been available to me, but they were not. We make do with what we have.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Aug. 20, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    Tators - aren't ALL traitors, by definition, "treasonous"?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 20, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    @ Contrarius:

    Yes, you should be a bit sorry. But not for your stated reason. I've thought through my reasoning and am still comfortable with it. I'm just sorry I'm apparently incapable of getting you to understand your own slightly off-kilter reasoning. Some of it sounds fairly good, but still doesn't hold up overall. It's that part that I'm sorry about... that we have a reasoning communication gap. You are misconstruing much of this case within it's intended context (it's truly not a clear excusal) that I just don't have the time nor space to try explaining it to you any further. Maybe next time. I do like the fact that at least you're trying. Most people don't.

    Also, check your previous post. You supposedly quoted me twice. Once correctly. Once not.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Aug. 20, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    @Tators --

    "Miranda isn't considered a terrorist threat."

    If he wasn't considered a terrorist threat, then his detention was illegal. The law he was detained under was specifically intended to cover TERRORIST suspects only.

    "But when individuals collude in treasonous activities"

    So what happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

    And the guy who was detained isn't even an American OR British citizen. Howintheheck are his activities supposed to be treasonous to Brazil??

    "And please quit bending and misquoting my statements to fit your agenda."

    Your exact words -- which I quoted -- were "And it wasn't like anyone was tortured or anything remotely similar."

    That's a clear excusal of the illegal detention. I'm sorry if you didn't think through the implications of your words before you posted them.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 20, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    @ Contrarius:

    In no way did I assert setting any criteria for establishing or respecting any personal rights in this case. But when individuals collude in treasonous activities, they should expect having to give up some level of personal rights. The reporter involved was colluding with Snowden. And as the legal partner of the reporter, his direct association thus makes him also suspect of possibly having illegal and sensitive government information.

    And please quit bending and misquoting my statements to fit your agenda. By doing so, you skew statements out of context in attempting to make your arguments look better than they are. You put quotation marks on "Well at least he wasn't tortured" as if that was an accurate and direct quote of mine. It wasn't. My actual quote was "It wasn't like anyone was tortured or anything remotely similar." And my actual quote wasn't made in the context you are trying to assert. By doing such things, your argument quickly loses credence and legitimacy.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 20, 2013 11:32 a.m.


    Miranda isn't considered a terrorist threat. As such, this isn't really a great example of any of your authority assertions. I do agree that the play-out will be interesting.

    @ My2Cents:

    It seems you must know next to nothing about how Al Quite, Al Fatah and other extremist enemy groups operate. If our government was to shut down foreign NSA, CIA and other surveillance operations of such groups, the last thing we could expect is for the world to become more peaceful... as you asserted.

    Terrorism would soon rise to unprecedented levels around much of the world. A primary means for keeping such groups in check is the high level surveillance that our government uses on them... and then working in conjunction with our and other ally militaries to counter their terrorism attacks. By doing so, many (though obviously not all) would-be attacks have undoubtedly been thwarted around the world.
    Such surveillance has also allowed the use of drone attacks on high level operatives and organizers in those terror organizations, thus again thwarting them.

    Anyone who can't understand this security issue and it's direct ramifications has been living in another world altogether.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Aug. 20, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    @Tators --

    "And it wasn't like anyone was tortured or anything remotely similar."

    Is that our criterion for respecting personal rights now? "Well at least he wasn't tortured"??

    I understand why the US and the UK are both angry with these people. But I do NOT understand how Miranda could remotely be considered a terrorist threat.

    This is a great example of how governments overstep their authority whenever 1. they feel like it and 2. they think they can get away with it.

    It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Aug. 20, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    Snowden is a treasonous traitor to his country. And he knows it. That's the reason he has tried so hard to find asylum in any other country he can. Before having access to secret and sensitive government documents, he signed papers promising not to disclose such things. He's proven himself someone who can't be trusted since his personal and legal promises obviously mean nothing. The last thing he should be considered is a hero. He is definitely not. I would never, ever hire such a person to work for my company.

    By association, the reporter who was in collusion with Snowden in leaking the documents should expect some repercussions via surveillance from associated governments. That would naturally extend to his personal partner. The British are a very close ally of the U.S. and as such, are just trying to cooperate with us in the ongoing investigation.

    No government respects any individual who will turn on his own country. And it wasn't like anyone was tortured or anything remotely similar. This individual's detainment was just for hours... not days. This is obviously being made a bigger issue than it really is.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Aug. 20, 2013 5:31 a.m.

    Reason that violating rights of freedom is in our Constitution to forbidding illegal search and seizure, out of nothing they have created a baseless incident to ridicule and detain and intimidate a person rights.

    No, this terrorist laws are being used to harass citizens and innocent people with threats, lies, and accusation to further the cause of governement oppression as a perceived right.

    Until the Patriot Act and homeland security laws are repealed this country and the world will never be at peace. Shut down NSA, CIA, and all governemnt operations of war in foreign countrysides then maybe the world will become peaceful again.

    This country rights and civil authority is limited to our borders. NAFTA Treaty must also be repealed if the US has any intention of prosperity and growth and economic stability.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    Aug. 19, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    waiting for obama to take credit for this one laden dead, detroit dead and snowden alive

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 19, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    Or is that Miranda Writes.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 19, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    New meaning of Miranda Rights.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Aug. 19, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    The way the Guardian keeps pacing its release of leaked documents piecemeal says to me that its priority is to strategically drag out the story to keep milking it for all it’s worth. How will they keep it going if the public starts to tire of it in time? Have they thought of that? I’ll bet they have. Public watchdog, my eye.