Tenn. judge changes infant's name from 'Messiah'

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 6:13 p.m.

    This is really an ignorant overreach by this judge.
    Is he aware that Jesus is a common name in Spanish speaking countries?
    Is he also aware that in Judaism, Christ is not the Messiah?
    This won't stand.

  • gburns52 Milford, UT
    Aug. 16, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    'Child Support Magistrate' says it all. Unlike other judges, they make religious rulings all the time. It can't be avoided in child custody cases. How would you separate it? I do think the judge went a little far in this case and it most likely will be overturned, not necessarily on religious separation grounds, but because both parents had agreed on the first name. If you think this is because Tennessee is a backwards state, not so. I dealt with a judge in the Los Angeles courts that asked me what I prayed for, the night before, as I sat on the witness stand.

  • The Scientist Provo, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 4:29 p.m.

    Don Bugg wrote:

    "'A Scientist' seems to be claiming that 'believers' are not participating in an outcry about this ruling."

    I am sorry you could not follow my comment. Read my comment again. That is not what I claimed. I pointed out that this Judge's ruling is "what in the public square looks like". This Judge is relying on individual religious beliefs to make this judgement. That is what I have been told believers want: the right to bring their personal religious faith into "the public square" and have it influence their jobs, voting, education, etc.

    Good for you for condemning what this Judge has done. But that means you are condemning this Judge's "religious freedom" - the right to mingle religion with public office; the right to bring the Judge's personal religious beliefs into the public square and the workplace.

  • the old switcharoo mesa, AZ
    Aug. 15, 2013 2:57 p.m.

    People in other countries name their kid stuff like that all the time.

    In a red state they change your kid's name because they don't like it on religious grounds. Wow. I doubt they would have cared if it were "Buddha".

    I'll stay far away from Tennessee.

  • Don Bugg Prince Frederick, MD
    Aug. 15, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    "A Scientist" seems to be claiming that "believers" are not participating in an outcry about this ruling. But that doesn't seem to square with the unanimous scorn shown in the comments above; surely some of these folks are "believers," and they obviously have great disdain for what the judge has done.

    I'm a "believer"--a Christian and a Latter-day Saint. I think the judge's ruling is absolutely appalling. I believe and hope it won't stand.

  • coltakashi Richland, WA
    Aug. 14, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    The interference by any governmentofficer, including a judge, in the selection of a personal name for one's child is a right exercised by parents since time immemorial. The judge's rationale, that the name "Messiah" must be reserved for the one true Messiah, demonstrates prejudice against Jews, who believe the Messiah has still not arrived. The word means "Anointed" as in "Anointed Priest or King", and in Greek is Christos, so every person in the world named "Chris" or "Kris" or "Christian" is also bearing a name with a similar meaning. Whatever appellate court has jurisdiction is going to reverse the ruling, and whatever method they have in Tennessee to get rid of idiot judges who abuse their power needs to be employed to get rid of this judge.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    Aug. 13, 2013 1:42 p.m.

    @ A Scientist

    Consider this outcry from a believer. Bad decision on any number of levels.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    Seriously, this is what religion in the public square looks like. This is a Judge excercising "freedom of religion" in the very way believers say he should be able to do.

    Where is the outcry against those like this mother who are infringing on the "religious freedom" of this Judge by insisting that the Judge keep religion out of the job?

    The hypocrisy of believers is astounding.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    Aug. 13, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    Will opposition to this judge's ruling be decried as yet another assault on "religious freedom?"

    Where are you, defenders of the faith?

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    Aug. 13, 2013 2:07 a.m.

    This is why Church and State should be separate. A judge's religious beliefs should not be telling parents what they can name children.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    What an idiotic ruling. This judge clearly doesn't understand that she has no business forcing her own religous views onto the people who come before her. Today's names are often bizarre (to many of us) and unusual; why not be able to use a title for a name, some people are using the names of fruits. The article stated that Messiah is #4 these days as a child's name.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Aug. 12, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Yes, folks, this is the Great State of Tennessee. ;-D

    There are millions of people in the world named "Jesus". And millions more named "Mohammed".

    IMHO "Messiah" is a pretty stupid name -- but if she wants to hang that on her son, she has the right to do so.

    The ACLU is already on the case. This name change won't last long.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Aug. 12, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    How is it legal for a judge to impose his religious beliefs onto a person? This is nuts. I personally hate that name, but if somebody wants to use it, let them. I can name my kid buddah, ala, or whatever else I want. There are hispanics with the name Jesus... This is rediculous.

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 12, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    @ ute alumni? Really? You think the child should be removed from the parents because of his name? So much for small government.

    This Judge is imposing her religious beliefs on this family and she has no right to do that.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    With "parents" like this, you can see why adoption is still needed. Give the kid a chance and give him to parents that can actually raise him.