Miss Riverton and actual consequences

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  • crmeatball South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    Enforcement of a set of rules teaches children the inseperable nature of choice and accountability. We create consequences to instill self-discipline in the child. As they grow, the ability to create consequence diminishes and if the child fails to learn the lesson through the artificially generated consequence, ultimately they will learn through other, much harsher and realistic means. This is why these kids are being charged with a serious crime.

    So yes, a person nearly killing a child because of distracted driving should be held to a higher standard. A person taking a swing at someone should be held to the high standard. Neither should be charged with the actual potential consequence, but with the high standard of violating the law. That is what is happening here. They are not being charged with homicide or terrorism. They are being charged with a lesser crime - but due to the serious nature of the potential consequences, that crime is also serious. As it should be. To suggest we look the other way or simply slap them on the wrist because it was an innocent, youthful prank demonstrates the failure of our society to prepare our children for life.

  • crmeatball South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    I think the author brings up a good point here, that intent needs to be considered in passing judgment. However, the potential consequences must also be considered. The primary issue here is the fact these kids were out having "fun" in a potentially dangerous manner. One can nearly be certain the consequences of their actions were not considered when they set out to do this. I remember being a teenager, doing similar stupid things. Eventually I learned the consequences of actions could not be removed from the choice of doing them and I began to consider them when making a choice.

    This is a skill seemingly lacking in young people today. They are taught through a lack of discipline that there are no consequences to their actions and they can do whatever they want. They do not learn this lesson until they are the ones faced with tragedy. For this reason, the severity of the potential consequences must be considered. Not just by law enforcement, but by parents who need to establish discipline with their children. Such discipline, like punishment for violating rules or laws, teaches the kids without the gravity of real consequences doing so. (cont)

    Aug. 12, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    To Freedom Fighter:

    I would be floored beyond belief if an incident like this involving a Muslim or minority were reported at all. When a Muslim shoots 13 people and it is reported as a "workplace violence" incident--I think we have a reporting problem in this country.

    To bill of Canada:

    I think you nailed it--my letter was probably even an overreaction.

    To Impartial:

    Again--Arab kids in New York doing the same thing would not be reported. Period. The media makes sure to edit race out of everything--unless white individuals are involved as the perpetrators and then race is usually the headline.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    I don't think they were out to kill people. They were out to do something stupid (for some reason that's attractive to kids this age).

    I hope we all learn a lesson from this. But I don't think we need to destroy the rest of her life over it to do that.

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Aug. 12, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    If Miss Riverton had been a minority or Muslim, would this letter writer show the same sympathy?

    Just curious.

  • bill of Canada Coquitlam, 00
    Aug. 11, 2013 10:56 p.m.

    This SHOULD be a story about how law enforcement and media exaggerate and spin a story to the extreme.
    The kids are doing the equivalent of popping balloons. Ok, and getting bleach on people's lawns. In reality, an overinflated pop bottle is not an incendiary (that means creates fire by the way) device and it is not 'detonated'. Youtube is full of videos of kids (and some adults) doing the same and more dangerous things without being hyped as 'bombers' doing 'potentially deadly' activities. The headlines of 'Beauty Queen Detonating Bombs' has spread worldwide when these kids have done nothing approaching a felony and certainly had not intention to hurt anyone. The media have abrogated their responsibility in questioning the language of the authorities and verifying the 'danger' of small amounts of drano on people's lawns and loud noises. No wonder the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world. I hope people come to their senses.

  • trekker Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    "Most involved", it doesn't matter any involvement in crime is not right, she should lose her title.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    These "kids" threw potentially deadly explosive devices, that actually did explode, at innocent peoples homes, including an ex-girlfriend's. It's not a stretch to have someone get hurt or killed. If these were Arab "kids" doing the exact same thing in New York, would the writer be so flippant about the consequences?

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    Aug. 11, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Not sure about the other people involved in this crime with "Miss Riverton".....
    However, those who are entering beauty pageants in this day and age have much that is expected of them. Beauty gets them noticed, initially. Maturity, sound judgement, education, musical or another talent, manners, public speaking skills, among other attributes are expected of one who is aspiring for such a title.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    I would want to be cared about and loved to have forgiveness. But, This isn't like shooting illegal fireworks up in the air. I heard they used drain o. That will burn and cause blindness. Intentions has a lot to do with this story.