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  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Aug. 5, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    To "Demo Dave" oil companies reclaim land all the time, just because you haven't noticed doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Here are some examples:

    "Reclaiming Alberta's oil sands mines" Earth magazine

    "National Geographic's Article on Canada's Oil Sands: An Incomplete Perspective" CAPP

    If you look into most states, they have laws that require oil and mining operations to clean up the land once they are finished in an area.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    Back when we were chanting 'drill, baby', we agreed to the idea of cheap energy at any cost. Let's get on with it. And Dave, Syncrude, Suncor and the other players in the Athabasca sands have whole chunks of their organisations dedicated to reclamation, which they do quite well.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    Except for the key detail that all of the arguments are based on that actually isn't true... the idea that the US is not a net importer of oil. We actually export more oil than we import, this was the case in 2011 for the first time since the late 1940s.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    Aug. 4, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    I'm not sure what an environmentalist is either. However, I think that the argument made is valid and sensible. I don't know much about tar sands oil, but I am quite familiar with Book Cliffs, and it appears to me it could use a change. I'd like to see something happen there that would help the local economy and the oil supply.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:38 p.m.

    An environmentalist with more the half a brain...how could this be? Seriously, most leftists can't get their heads around the idea of an environmentalist who looks like they took a bath and a shave sometime in the past 10 weeks. They don't understand a rural citizen, who has actually seen or been in a forest or desert, and takes an opposing position, to a urban, upper middle class person, whose only concept of the environment, is what they read in the greenpeace publications they receive from their mindless contributions to such organizations. Most Leftists, who think they are environmentalists, only believe in the promotion of increased taxes, limited access to public lands, special rights for LGBT persons, and heavy regulations and extra heavy taxes for all industries, even if it means large job losses. That is their real vision of environmentalism.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 5:39 p.m.

    Re: "I am not familiar with this definition of environmentalist..."

    Yeah, me neither.

    The writer makes WAY too much common sense to qualify as an environmentalist.

    These days, unfortunately, that designation is limited to hard-left misanthropes, who are not happy unless they're poking a finger in someone's eye.

  • Demo Dave Holladay, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Since when has an oil company ever reclaimed the land and made it flourish? Give me one example.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    I am not familiar with this definition of environmentalist...

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    You're what? Did you say environmentalist? I think not. Your definition won't hold water, sorry.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Aug. 4, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Why don't you protest $4.00/gal.gasoline and the harm that is doing to the poor people of our country in causing double digit inflation of food costs? That's something real to protest!

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    Aug. 4, 2013 1:11 a.m.

    So what is going to keep the oil found in the far sands from being exported?

    How does an environmentalist, like yourself, somehow miss the fact that our #1 export is fuel?

    It would seem to me, that if we really wanted energy independence we would stop exporting our fuel.