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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 29, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    To "Rand" and "atl134" you both missed the point of my statement.

    Imagine what the liberals would have done to a Republican president if the same scandals came to light during his presidency.

    "atl134", you realzie that the of the 298 groups that were targeted only 6 were liberal groups. That is more likely due to improperly filling out paperwork than actually being targeted.

    "Rand" you realize that by just attacking me and not attacking Obama for pumping up the already questionable government practices you only prove my point. Where is your outrage that Obama would take a surveilance program set up to watch terrorist activities and change it to put the entire US under surveilance?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 27, 2013 10:08 p.m.

    The IRS targeted groups with Progressive in their names too... besides, if the IRS is so overwhelmed that the end result is backlogs of files and/or shoddy work... how is cutting IRS funding going to help? That's just going to make it worse.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    July 27, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    One fact should be crystal clear to Americans and people everywhere in the world: governments habitually mislead and rationalize for their own benefit at the expense of the governed. This includes fabricating their own conspiracy fables. They hope thereby to ridicule those who suggest alternative accounts. As CLM pointed out, these accounts sometimes turn out to contain more truth than the government cared to admit. Too many Americans have lost interest in questioning authority. Too many Americans demonstrate unearned trust in smooth-talking politicians and officials of both major parties. Government is not worthy of our blind trust.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    July 27, 2013 10:18 a.m.


    You really need to find a new username.

    "Joe must be either comfortably retired or comfortably living off his parents in their basement. I don't know of a single working person who is worried about the things that he writes about."

    So I guess the Government can get away with anything. Tell the world they didn't do it and all of their sheeple followers believe it. With your mentality, America will surely die. Nobody has any accountability in your world and anything goes.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    July 27, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    Ultra Bob

    "If we have to have totally spying on all Americans to find and eliminate the overwhelming criminal element then I certainly am willing to give up my privacy to the extent needed."

    That is a slaves mentality. You have been indoctrinated by the biggest slavemaster President Obama,to give up your freedoms if he asks you too. And you think your free. Is this a joke?

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    July 27, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    Couldn't let CLM's wmd comment pass. They found a few old and abandoned, chemical weapons from 1991 and before. The nuclear and biological programs had been unilaterally stopped and destroyed in the mid 90's. None of this was even in the world of Rice's mushroom cloud scenario. It would be like finding an old WWII unexploded bomb in the pacific and declaring Japan was still armed and intending to attack America.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    Hey, how about a compromise here? How about if the folks that want to see these dog and pony shows, do it on their own time? The Congress is in session only Tuesday thru Thursday (when they aren't on a break). How about if the business of the governing of the Country can only be transacted during the "work week" and all other "hearings" take place on Monday or Friday? That way, one doesn't take time from the other.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    July 26, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    Bountiful, UT
    @airnaut said, “Jason Chaffetz should be investigated for his SUPPORT of the NSA spying of Americans Citizens.”

    Really? Well here is a “news flash” for you.


    In other words...

    Jason Chaffetz was FOR the NSA's illegal spying on it's citizens's BEFORE this political can of worms came to light and NOW he is against it.

    Just goes to show he's both a Hypocrite AND lacks Integrity.

  • Rand Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    I hate having to point out the obvious, but Mr. DuPont's letter doesn't address the IRS scandal or government surveillance programs started by a Republican and continued under the Obama administration. I'm hoping your comment wasn't an agreement with Mr. DuPont's conspiracy theories, which is the real topic of this thread.

    "...and the liberals don't care"

    That's amusing. You must be pretty far down the rabbit hole of partisan politics to make a statement like that. Especially after the W.Bush era scandals. One after another in that administration, but I'm sure you raised your voice in protest against that president, yes? You accuse Obama of "backing terrorists", so I am sure you are very upset about the Iran Contra scandal and support of Saddam Hussein during Reagan's administration. Liberals don't care? Probably not as much as when a conservative has scandals, that's true. But you and many conservatives are guilty of the same oversight, so I am unsure where you find the moral authority to accuse others of the partisanship you hold.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 26, 2013 3:24 p.m.

    As a liberal, American citizen, enjoying the benefits of being an American I cheer President Obama for his efforts on the behalf of the American people. I fault President Obama only for his inability to overcome the hatred of his detractors

    If we have to have totally spying on all Americans to find and eliminate the overwhelming criminal element then I certainly am willing to give up my privacy to the extent needed.

    If the units of our government detect or suspect criminal intent, I hope they help enforce the law even when it’s not their own area. The IRS and other government agencies should all scrutinize and watch potential criminals, especially those who outwardly declare themselves.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 26, 2013 3:00 p.m.

    I think that people who think every step that our President takes should be investigated is only covering for their own missteps.

    I think that Jason Chaffetz is more interested in doing harm to our present government than representing the people of Utah.

    I think there are more liars than truth tellers in government, business, religion and the entire world; and it has always been that way.

    Mostly I think there are more people willing to destroy American than save her.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    July 26, 2013 2:20 p.m.

    Doing some internet searching to figure out just what Chaffetz intends to investigate, it didn't take long to uncover some internet conspiracy theorists advancing a case that the Abbottabad raid didn't kill Osama (he's either long dead or still running around, depending on which version you read), and to cover up the 'Big Lie' the President set up the SEALs to be shot down before they could reveal the truth.

    Without diving into the holes in this theory, it's hardly surprising that Chaffetz is the type to get involved in something on the level of 9/11 Truthers, Birthers, Birchers, etc, spending time and money to investigate ANYTHING that might embarrass Obama.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 26, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Can you imagine how the press and liberals would have reacted if Obama was a Republican and had these scandals?

    Nixon's administration did less than Obama, and they put enough pressure on him that he resigned.

    We now have Obama who is spying on nearly everybody in the US, backing terrorists, and has allowed the IRS to be used as a political tool for intimidation, and the liberals don't care.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    July 26, 2013 11:12 a.m.


    Jason Chaffetz should be investigated for his SUPPORT of the NSA spying of Americans Citizens.

    But -
    You'll continue to turn a blind eye to reality to support your 'other' conspiracies.

  • CLM Draper, UT
    July 26, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    It took considerable courage to put your opinions in the DN, where you knew your letter would suffer the slings and arrows of scorn and dismissal. I want you to know there are those of us in the readership who agree with you--there are many events that need thorough investigation and many unanswered questions that need to be addressed.

    Think of your detractors as "coincidence theorists", it may help. Also think how many conspiracy "theories" turned out to be fact: the sinking of the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, WMDs in Iraq to name just a few.

    I understand how discouraging that no argument of substance supporting your conclusions will be listened to, even when presented with evidence from experts or even Congressional testimony--the great majority of people will refuse to accept it or will deny it. Nevertheless, I hope you'll continue to do your research and speak your mind.

    "If you are right and you know it, speak your mind. Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth." Gandhi

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    July 26, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    See, President Obama is anti-SEAL. That explains everything. Brother.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    What planet does this guy live on? Congress needs to "investigate" or "get to the bottom" of Osama and Pat Tillman? Gee, I was hoping that we would instead have round three (or four) of steroids in sports. Enough! Congress needs to do its job of solving the problems we elected them to work on. Side shows are for carnivals or State Fair midways. It might be entertaining, but if that is what you want get cable or better yet, get a life.

  • FreedomFighter41 Orem, UT
    July 26, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Joe must be either comfortably retired or comfortably living off his parents in their basement. I don't know of a single working person who is worried about the things that he writes about.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    July 26, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    Bust out the 5,000 year Leap book folks! Hold it tightly!

    Time to gird up your loins (tea party apparel)!

    Time to wave proudly your flag (the Don't Tread on Me or Confederate flag).

    Time to display proudly your signature to secede from the nation!

    And, it's time to finally write a letter to the Dnews!

    It's tea party time!

    And the GOP wonders why it keeps losing elections? The tea party wonders why it's looked down upon by so many?

    Yes. By all means. Lets exhaust every single resource and second we have to investigate these radical conspiracies. Lets do absolutely nothing to resolve all the important issues of today!

  • Rand Ogden, UT
    July 26, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    Oh, this letter is sweet, just oozing the syrupy goodness of fringe conspiracy theories. "allegedly" killed Osama bin Laden? "Assassination" of Pat Tillman? This gives the Birthers a run for their money. I am guessing that Representative Chaffetz is not nearly as appreciative of this letter and Mr. DuPont would hope.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    July 26, 2013 5:21 a.m.

    "My hat is off once again..."

    That would be hat made of tin foil.

    "Allegedly" killing Osama Bin Laden?

    Yep, sounds like Rep. Chaffetz knows how to appeal to the GOP base.