To "UtahBlueDevil" you are wrong. Common Core is intended to be the
standard, with little deviation. States are only allowed to change at most 15%
of what CC states must me taught.To "Irony Guy" as a parent,
I have seen how horrible the standards. They claim to teach advanced concepts,
while sacrificing the basics that form the foundation for advanced concepts.
Math is more difficult to learn using CC methods, and the english standards will
only make grammar and composition a huge mess.
Utah legislator should ignore Common Core conspiratorialists like those who have
co-opted legislators in Pennsylvania and Indiana.Although being blamed
because it inflames Utah conspiratorialists, the Obama administration had
nothing to do with formulating the standards. But the anti- cc crowd has been
brilliant in opposing them, taking several steps:Step one: Label the
standards as a vast left-wing conspiracy Step two: Find two professors to
criticize the standards -- and then get one more to write an op-ed. Step
three: Relentlessly beat the drum, constantly email, hold pep rallies and pray
that enough legislators fear the far right enough to surrender to the pressure.
We saw what complete local control led to in Arkansas. Segregated schools. It
actually took the feds to change it. Just some food for thought. Some local
control is good, some not so much.
Why should we care about what anybody from Arkansas thinks?If the
argument for local control is to hold any water why must the Dnews use those
from the other side of the country to fight their battles?
@Kent C. DeForrest.... I don't disagree that continuous learning
isn't a bad thing. I have my JD/MBA, my wife has been working on her PhD.
We value education....But today's rush to educate everyone to
some high minded level creates a bar the is irrelevant to many people. It you
want to learn about Russian literature.... that is great. But is it really
worth spending 1 to 2 thousand dollars on? Is it going to make you a better
CPA, Developer, Architect?One of the brightest, hardest working, and
frankly richest people I know... doesn't have a college degree. My former
employer - Larry Ellison - no degree. Bill Gates.... No Degree. Michael Dell
- no degree just to name a few. Learning to be a critical thinking is not
taught by cookie cutter educational systems.And that is the highest
risk to this.... that states rather see this as a minimum common standard, but
as the Bar they teach too. But taht is up to the local and state boards to
decide. Nothing in this makes anyone teach down to anyone.
Re: ". . . the standards and they are not lower, they are just different .
. . ."Yeah -- different from what our kids actually need.The real issue with Common Core is control and accountability.
Currently, those reside at local and statewide levels.Surrendering
local control for uniform lower standards, in return for a few temporary and
insufficient federal handouts, has led to nothing be grief in EVERY other area
where it's been tried.What overall good could possibly come
from the surrender of local control of this critical enterprise? Nothing comes
to mind.Educational "progressives" apparently believe Utahns
too stupid, too unconcerned, and too unsophisticated to know what's good
for our kids. Real Utahns, on the other hand, know it's the
"progressives" and liberals that need remedial common-sense
education.There's simply no good reason to surrender control of
our kids' education to an anonymous, unaccountable, out-of-state entity
that is clearly beholden to interests that do not promote better education.
If we want more people to graduate from high school, lower the bar. If we want
better educated high school graduates, then raise the bar. Which will common
How do you know, when you are 12 or 15 or 18 or even 25, what you are going to
need to know in your career? I have two degrees in disciplines that have little
to do with my day-to-day work. Some would say I'm miseducated, perhaps
overeducated. But one thing a rigorous education does (even studying irrelevant
Russian novelists) is to teach you how to think and how to learn. If you can do
that, you can qualify for any number of jobs. Of course, a solid foundation in
math never hurt anybody.
Utah Legislatures should pause implementation of Common Core education like
Pennsylvania and Indiana did. The Obama administration was brilliant in
advancing this unpopular education agenda by taking three steps.Step one:
Instead of asking Congress to appropriate money and thereby provoking public
discussion of the issue, insert the funding in a massive stimulus package.Step two: Make the willingness to adopt a national Common Core a virtual
condition of receiving Race to the Top grants, even before the standards and
curriculum are finalized.Step three: Recruit publicly unaccountable groups
like the National Governors Association to sponsor the project. Bring in the
massively wealthy Gates Foundation for funding and supervision. See to it that
your former education adviser Linda Darling-Hammond (too controversial to be
appointed secretary of education) is the leading presence at one of the private
groups actually designing the curriculum and standards.
@ Irony guyThe math stardards are not higher and they are not easier
to learn. The investigation technique required for completing common core math
is actually very complicated and redundant. It would be a step back. I help my
son with math and he is able to do his math faster and with more accuracy when
he does it my way vs the ridiculous investigation approach required by common
core. The very principle of Federally mandated standards is not a
good idea. Common core would be the equivelant of NCLB on steroids. It
basically would be a disaster.
"Are we as a society really ready to agree to Common Core's
low-expectations for college readiness (as professors Zimba and McCallum
indicate)? Are we willing to lower the bar as a way of closing the achievement
gap?" Thank you, Dr. Stotsky, for your important article.I hope people listen to you, rather than listening to those groups who
are only economically motivated, and who are not acting due to any academic
legitimacy of the Core, and who have no insight into what blesses
children's educational lives, long term. But so far, too many
Utahns have listened to Gates-funded, bribed groups (National PTA, CCSSO, NGA,
etc.) which are funded by the Gates-centered monopoly, to say that Common Core
is an upgrade. --When it isn't! Thankfully, now there is an increasing
number of people who see Common Core for what it is-- a change that doesn't
bless children, doesn't improve college preparation, doesn't empower
teachers or principals, but instead pads the bank accounts of colluding
education-sales products corporations and limits local voices and independent
As a former educator, I can say that I've studied the standards and they
are not lower, they are just different and in some cases better. Math is easier
to learn, that's true, but it's a result of a better design. English
is taking more account of expository writing instead of just a steady diet of
imaginative literature. I'm in favor of the great books, but there are more
than just novels and poetry in that category.
Common core is the latest rung of our climb up a ladder placed against the wrong
wall. Mechanistic approaches to education, although predominant for the last
200 years, treat humans like machines. We slow the assembly line down to fix
the defects.Participation approaches to education, although larger
marginalized, treat humans as living agents who want to learn certain things
that are meaningful to their lives and who will excel in those things given the
chance. General education is general boredom and has very little if any impact
on the learner. Teachers should guide the learner's explorations, not
grade them based on standards. Tools like advanced math only become meaningful
if the learner needs them during their explorations. Of course,
basic tools (basic math, reading, writing, speaking, running, driving, etc.)
should be mastered, but only because they are so ubiquitous to everyday life.If we want great professionals in this nation, get out of their way at
an early age and let them choose to become great at whatever interests them.
Good grief... not everyone is Harvard bound, nor is an elite school necessary,
or even the best thing for everyone. This notion that every child needs
advanced math, or knowledge of Russian authors... is one of the biggest scams
our "advanced" education crowd tries to push people.If
educations role is to prepared one to be able to live a productive life - then
we are spending billions upon billions over educating people. Sure, we need
people with advanced degrees.... I work at a company that has one of the highest
densities of math PHDs in the world. I spend my days using math and analytics
to help the energy industry extract more - from less. But I couldn't tell
you the last time I used Trig. The educational elite are part of
the problem. Common core is intended to be the floor.... the basis upon what
you build upon... not the end state. A good portion of kids will work in
trades and service carriers they don't need to be over educated for, and
don't need to start life with bloated debt.It is a
foundation... not a maximum. Utah can exceed these standards if it chooses.