Lost in DC and Bored to the point of THIS!, You both make very
definitive statements about the unions protecting bad teachers. For my own
curiosity you arrived at those conclusions based on what? I am a 30 year
veteran teacher I have been a member of our teachers association and have been
involved in situations where teachers are dismissed. As a right to work state,
there is nothing an association can do to keep any teacher from losing their job
if the administration has followed district policy and state law. Before the
next misstatement of fact that process could easily be carried out in one school
year. With the new legislation from Senator Osmond, supported by UEA, that time
frame is down to 120 days. If you have bad teachers in your schools, you have
worse administrators, who lack the courage or competence to follow a very simple
remediation procedure. I would challenge you to read from the ATF or
NEA website and read about what they are doing to try and improve the
profession, rather than listen to right wing ideologues who don't let the
facts get in the way of their story.
Teachers are held accountable every second of every day by their students. If
they're not doing the job, everyone knows it and avoids them. Kids vote
with their feet just like everybody else. A French teacher in my high school had
no registrants at all after 2 years of stupidity. A new and better teacher came
in and rebuilt the program into 7 full classes every day. Truly poor teachers
don't make it.
There are bad teachers, just like every other profession. However, it is the
Teachers Union that protects the bad teachers!
Bad teachers are not the main problem. Wake up folks.
I found this article to be confusing in all honestly. In my opinion (I am not
an educator) I had way to many teachers that were obviously incompetent and were
only in a classroom because of tenure. I had one such teacher in the fourth
grade that the school system was actively trying to fire because she was
basically useless and due to having tenure. I had just moved and she was my
first teacher in a new school system and it was not helping me academically. My
high school was not any better. You could easily tell the teachers who had been
teaching for far too long because classes consisted of nothing but the same old
same old to the point you fell asleep and simply memorized dates (history class
for example) to be able to regurgitate it back to be able to pass an exam. I
feel that I have learned more as an adult and doing my own studying and research
on different topics than I ever did being formally educated. I find that truly
Thing is, Randi, by your acceptance of their dues, you are obligated to protect
and defend bad teachers.
Unions attract better teachers because the pay and benefits are usually better
but what is driving the good teachers out of educaiton is government controls
and mandates that contradict the ability of teachers to be good educators. The
unions should work on better more accountable states to prohibit government
involvement in educations and standards. They are too late, the good
teachers seen the light and depraved the system. The system is the problem of
eduction, not the teachers or their abilities which governemnt questions and
denies them to provide public education students with a quality eduction. What
is left in the system is now the best they will ever have or hope to have. Older
teachers are stuck and so are the schools.Besides, its not up to the
unions to pick and choose teachers or qualify or disqualify teachers, they
represent all teacher and that is their only criteria and authority.
Wayne, why do big union states have better graduation rates and out perform
students in non-union states then?
Wayne Rout:What you said has nothing to do with what is going on in
You can never believe a union leader of any kind. Vouchers are the best
solution. Teachers would be paid more, parents would be in control, and
children would learn much more. Home schooled students typically excel as they
get away from union teachers. I see no reason that the teachers should run the
schools. Why can't teachers be held accountable for results, everyone in
the private sector who pay the taxes are help accountable. Only government
employees seem to be able to do as little as they want and still demand more pay
and even more time off.
Let's face the truth.Teachers are held more accountable than
the president on the United States.
Bad lawmakers, and legistlators should find new jobs.Teachers are
not to be blamed for poor decision making from political leadership.