Militarizing the Mexican border goes beyond just an economic boondoggle

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  • SLars Provo, UT
    July 20, 2013 12:04 a.m.

    We have over 12 million people here on green cards that have no desire to become citizens. They are here for the jobs. Why should Americans put up with surplus labor brought here illegally? What right does business lobbyists have running our immigration department? Why should Americans put up with this illegal activity?

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    July 19, 2013 5:10 p.m.


    That only addresses half the problem. The problem with giving out green cards is how do you keep out the people who we do not want in the country green card or not? Namely the criminal, drug, gang, types ect? If a strong border enforcement is not in place, then even if the honest working immigrant comes in and gets a green care, you will still have the undesirables coming in too. The drug problem is America is largely a southern border problem.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Not enforceing laws, and then claiming they are broken, is intellectual dishonesty.

    Our agents at the border have been told not to turn people back, and have been disiplined if they do. The border is just as pourous as ever according to ICE. They currently have a lawsuit against Obama over his lack of enforcement.

    We gave out 3.2 million work visas in 2011, and 2.8 million in 2010, most went to people here illegally. 2/3 of our green cards went to family unification, many of them were in the country illegally. Most of the people crossing now are new people.

    It should cost more to break the law than to obey it.

  • davidctr ,
    July 18, 2013 2:37 p.m.

    Great article!
    We need more "bridges" and much less "walls".

  • Invisible Hand Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    It's a little surprising how conservatives who otherwise loathe big government and oppressive regulations on business can embrace an expensive (yet ineffective), big government solution to the immigration question. Can't you people see your intellectual dishonesty here? Why is it so wrong for me to hire whoever I want without getting special permission from the government? Why do you so-called conservatives want to squash that freedom?

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    "We need the labor"

    No we don't.

    We have an abundance of labor right now. Millions are still unemployed and millions more are underemployed.

    How about better business owners? Employ legally. Or pay wages that folks can actually live on? If you don't do this, then you will lose your business and go to jail.

    The problem and solution isn't with labor, but with business owners. Why do they feel like they can continually break our laws and not suffer any consequences?

    I thought the GOP was the party of accountability? Why aren't businesses who break our laws ever held accountable?

  • Sal Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    The writer need not worry about beefed up security along the border. This administration doesn't enforce it's laws. There will be no enforcement--just a lot of money spent on hardware and agents.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Terrific article. And by far the best solution to the problem of illegal immigration would be to issue more green cards. We need the labor, and we need the economic boost immigrants always provide.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    The best deterrent to illegal immigration isn't building a Berlin Wall, with drones, and army men every 2 meters... The best deterrent to illegal immigration is actually enforcing laws against employers thumbing their nose at our laws. It should be simple. Get caught employing illegally? You not only lose your business but go to jail. If employers knew that they faced stiff penalties like this, you'd be amazed how they'd suddenly start employing regular Americans. And if there aren't any jobs for the illegals, then there won't be a problem with illegal immigration.

    "Securing the border" the way the GOP wants to do it isn't a solutions. It flat out wont work. At worst, it's a handout to contractors who are using this as a way to increase their profits.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 18, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    20 years ago we had 4000 border agents. 10 years ago we had 10,000. Today we have 22,000. This bill will double that number. Net migration from Mexico today is estimated to be zero, meaning as many people are leaving as coming. This is not a wise use of taxpayer resources.

    A much cheaper method is by fining and charging businesses who employ illegal labor. But Corporate America doesn't like that, so we're not going to do it.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    July 18, 2013 5:51 a.m.

    Re: ". . . packs of armed Predators patrolling . . . moves the militarization of the border out of the expensive-boondoggle category into something much, much darker."

    And, by "darker," the open borders crowd means "effective."