DN Subscriber: Because of what Zimmermen did his life isn't worth much
right now. He is never going be to able to forget what he did. It will follow
him for the rest of his life.TMR: THe difference betqwwn this case
and OJ is there was no proof that OJ did it. That case was botched by the cops.
Many of you who bemoan the death of Trayvon seem to forget that it was Trayvon
who was in the aggressor position (best eye witness evidence) and it would
likely have been the injury or death of Zimmerman if he had not had a gun. Are
you favoring one over the other?As for the future of Mr. Zimmerman,
I only hope he gets a big financial settlement from NBC for their damaging lies
told about him.
I wonder why the DN, in their "coverage" did not name the "major
television network" that aired a highly edited 911 call to make it look
racist when it was not? Other major news disseminators named them (i saw on
yahoo that the defemation lawsuit against NBC is going forward)It
was NBC - they have fired a number of people over it, and it was their
exploitative "journalism" that heated up the race rhetoric. The Wal
Mart that was looted in LA riots over the verdict should also sue NBC for
damages, since NBC contributed to the attituted that led to the looting.
How pathetic.....If he was so precious to his parents, why was he
not at home?What got Trayvon Martin killed was he attacked and beat
Zimmerman. Who lets their child wander the streets at night,
especially a 17 year old child who has had past dealings with the law and has
been known to sell and use drugs?We as parents are responsible for
our children and we face heartache when we do not keep that responsibility. I
feel sorry for Trayvon's parents, they failed to protect their child. They
failed to teach him to be respectful of himself and others. They will suffer for
this lack of teachings.So will George Zimmerman.
Those of you who are on the "racism" bandwagon, are you only concerned
about the white on black crimes? Are blacks capable of racism, and if they are
racist is that a problem to you?Are you familiar with the recent
case of Joshua Chellew? He was a white guy recently murdered by four black guys.
Why wasn't this case reported by the press? For the same reason so many
other black on white cases aren't reported. Do you care?There
is racism in this country...and most people recognize it. But today's
racism is mostly blacks against not only whites, but also Latinos (like
Zimmerman), Asians, etc.
Did The FBI not conclude racism played no role in this, whatsoever?I'm grateful as all heck GZ was found to be innocent of all charges,
which should never, ever have been brought against him, in the first place! I
pray he's able to establish some modicum of normalcy in his life at some
future point, as much as it's even remotely possible to do so!Good luck to you, GZ!
There are no bars in the prison that George Zimmerman will be for the rest of
his life. His crime is he took away the most precious thing from his parents.
TMRIt was a court of law that rendered a verdict, not the DN. Your analogy
with OJ Simpson is weak. The DOJ, the governor and race-baiters were not
involved. Citizens who are not race-based looked at the facts as presented by
the media and still thought OJ was guilty. The media presented a
very one sided view of the Zimmerman case and it was difficult to obtain
unbiased reporting. They called him a self-proclaimed Hispanic which is
equivalent to calling the president a self-proclaimed African American. Yet most
people felt that the state of Florida had a weak case presented poorly and the
verdict was not surprising. Examining the motives of the establishment is a
proper role for the media. Thanks DN.
BO - guilty, Eric - guilty, MSNBC - guilty, CNN - guilty, Fox - not guilty, Jury
- not guilty. Facts of the case - not guilty. Why don't we just go by the
facts of this case and quit playing politics all the time?
Moabmom - WELL SAID!!!!
The court has spoken. Mr. Zimmerman had a fair trial and was acquitted.
It's time to move on.
Re: "The Department of Justice has announced it will look into the case,
which could lead to criminal civil rights charges . . . ."Let's see. Wouldn't this be the same "Justice" Department
that refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers that were menacing voters at a
polling place? Or that declined to do its duty to defend DOMA? Or that has yet
to interview a single discriminated-against conservative organization in its
"investigation" of the IRS?Seems like there ain't much
justice available from Obama's captive, politicized "Justice"
Department. Unless, of course, you know someone, or you're a member of some
favored organization, or you can be used as a symbol by a cynical "Great
Divider."Equal justice under the law?Not.
Uncertain?We live in an increasingly litigious/vengeful society.It seems to be fairly certain that George could possibly be very busy in
The claim that racism was an integral part and "giving all of the benefit of
the doubt to Zimmerman" is happening.Bottom line is that there
are no heroes here. There is no one in this case who acted in the highest
manner possible. Both made stupid decisions. There was a tragic outcome and so
many believe that because the outcome was worse for one that the other should be
punished. In my opinion, this should be a no-fault situation. Both acted
stupidly. One is dead. The outcome doesn't change anything. Actions are
the same. IF the police had arrived and Martin was not shot and the police had
to pry Martin off from Zimmerman, it is likely that Martin would have been
charged with assault and Zimmerman would have been the victim.So
many want to see racism in everything. They have their racism goggles on.
These people are the hammer that sees everything as a nail. They want to see
Zimmerman as white not Hispanic. Why not just see people and judge them based
on their actions. If we would do that, we would see two stupid people with a
Re:MannyYou said this is the "most bizarre court cases in recent
history". Not a single thing you listed has anything to do with the actual
case. I doubt you followed much of the actual case, and probably base a large
portion of your opinion solely on your distrust of the media and your perception
of the people prosecuting Zimmerman.Re:MoabmomMake no mistake,
race was an integral part of what happened that night. You are discussing what
happened during the confrontation, but seem to willfully ignore the events
leading up to it, or even what could have started it. You give all of the
benefit of the doubt to Zimmerman, and none to Martin. Zimmerman was found
not guilty, but he was the author of a young man's death. So I can't
blame anyone who is upset about it (even ignoring all of the other issues that
could make someone angry about this case).
So if our judicial system doesn't work the way these people want,
what's the resolution? That's right...anarchy. The arrogance of the
"hate America" crowd, the inciting by the leftist media, and the
idleness by the rest of us is astounding...and not good.
Please don't forget, Presumed innocent unless proved guilty. Then,
unanimous by ALL jurors. Which part of this needs change?
It is amazing to me that those who tried and continue to try to make the
Zimmerman trial about race are still refusing to look at the facts of the case.
They still ignore, regardless of what lead up to it, that Martin was slamming
Zimmerman's head into the concrete. What is the magic number of times that
Zimmerman should have let that happen before fighting back..one? five? ten?. At
that point it didn't/doesn't matter what color either one of them
were. It is encouraging to know that the justice system still works despite the
efforts of so called "civil rights" activists, this administration, and
the main stream media to influence the process and turn the case into a
A few points.#1 'stand your ground' was not invoked. The
defense was plain old self defense, the kind permitted in every state.#2 The only OJ case is completely different in every way except being a cross
race incident and acquittal. The differences are so vast that there really is no
valid comparison. (didn't do it vs self defense, physical evidence
indicates guilt versus innocence, no rich and famous person involved, etc, etc,
etc.) #3 Any attempt to compare the 2 cases is based purely on
racism, which we have been trying to end for 50 years. I guess some
are still just as racist as in 1995.
And yet at the end of the day, a teen aged boy is still dead because one man
thought he had the right to play God and end his life. Pathetic.
This has got to be one of the most bizarre court cases in recent history. There
are just too many points to list here but I'll name a few. Why are sports
figures making comments about this? Why are Hollywood types and other socialites
chiming in with tweets? Obama helped start this thing nowhe has kind of told
folks to back off a little. Now Harry Reid is fired up and wants a full
investigation by the DOJ. What's is really going on here? There are young
blacks kids being murdered every day in places like Chicago and there is no
press coverage whatsoever. Is prolonging this case just a diversionary tactic
by politicians, Al Sharpton, and others to keep the focus away from other
government scandals? What bizarre times we are in right now. I'm not sure
if I recognize this country anymore. Has Obama finally "Fundamentally
Transformed America" like he promised years ago? I think he has succeeded.
America has made great strides in civil rights and admittedly still has a ways
to go. Using the George Zimmerman trial to help further this cause is the wrong
tactical decision. This is not Rodney King all over. Trying to use this trial as
a vehicle for positive change is a lot like crying wolf.All the
arguments being made are just wrong. People think and that a person being beat
up has a right to defend themself. It came out in the trial due to his lack of
fitness and fighting skill that this was George Zimmerman's only option.The arguments currently being made will not further the cause of civil
rights because those arguments are seen as illogical by too many. The fight is
worthy and necessary but this is the wrong vehicle.
All these comparisons to O.J. Simpson only exposes the inability of some to make
apples-to-apples comparisons. Simpson was found not guilty of murdering his
ex-wife because the jury found reasonable doubt as to whether he actually did
kill her. Did that jury find that it was legally permissible for Simpson to
kill his wife? No. There is no question from either side that
Zimmerman did in fact kill Trayvon, and the jury found that when a person is
being beaten, he has a legal right to self defense. That's the same as
Simpson in what way? Guam Bomb - Trayvon Martin is dead because
Trayvon Martin decided to take matters into his own hands instead of confronting
with words only as he should have done. I think he felt legitimately afraid in
the situation, but when he escalated it to brutal violence, he lost control of
the outcome, and that's tragic. You and others can believe Zimmerman would
just chase him down and shoot him without provocation, but that's a
delusion that's contrary to all evidence, and a ridiculously unbelievable
contradiction to everything about Zimmerman's life to that point.
I tend to be more liberal than most Utahns, but this is an outrage! We should
let the White House and Congress know that we will not tolerate this kind of
blow to the American judicial system! This isn't about Obama or even
George Zimmerman. It's about overriding the process of American
Zimmerman was NOT found innocent - he was found "Not Guilty" just like
O.J. Simpson was found "Not Guilty." I know this - I know I will lay
awake at worrying about the fate of this Barney Fife wanna-be.
TMR, thank you for stating it so eloquently. Trayvon Martin is dead because
Zimmerman decided to take matters in his own hands.
Given the outrage over this verdict, I think Goerge Zimmerman ought to ask for
asylum in Russia, or some latin American country - he could be bunk mates with
DN Subscriber and Uncle Rico: In order to be consistent, I assume that you also
defend OJ Simpson from "criticism" and civil prosecution. After all,
Mr. Simpson was also found innocent by a jury who received instruction of State
law. If so, I depart company from your way of thinking. Concerning Mr.
Zimmerman, there is still a dead boy and the fact that Mr. Zimmerman make some
reckless decisions that led to this tragedy. Accountability does not end with
the absurd stand-your-ground Florida law.DN: It is interesting that
the drama projected for Mr. Zimmerman is the same predicament that Mr. Simpson
found himself in and yet it is highly unlikely that the DN would have published
such an article then.
The President should of acted presidential, and not ever commented on this whole
makes perfect sense to me also. But what is paramount is that a protected
segment of the population should remain protected.
I wonder how often the Justice Department looks into civil rights violations
when a black person attacks a (as others say) white-hispanic?
@Uncle Rico 11:55 p.m. July 14, 2013Zimmerman was not found
"innocent". He was merely found "not guilty" -- the same way OJ
Simpson, and others who were most likely factually guilty, were not convicted as
@DN Subscriber"He should never be criticized"Even
innocent doesn't mean he can't be criticized for racially profiling
Treyvon Martin and disobeying dispatchers requests to not get involved.
Thornbirds, DNsubscribers last paragraph makes perfect sense to me.Let me help you... Zimmerman was found innocent and was within the legal
definition of self defense (Stand Your Ground) allowed by Florida law.
DN Subscriber:Zimmerman will need lots of luck, among other things.Seems you think the man deserves sainthood?There are no words that can
express how strange that last paragraph of your's sounds.
As Mark Steyn pointed out, how did a Hispanic man that voted for a Black
president somehow become the poster boy of white racism? Based on
the evidence (or lack of evidence) that the prosecution presented, this was the
right verdict. But I imagine Mr. Zimmerman will spend the next few years being
hounded by leftist bureaucrats anxious to "make him pay" one way or
another. I bet Louis Lerner and her IRS will pull out all of his tax filings
from the last ten years and go through them with a microscope. I wish him
luck--he will need it.
This story details multiple examples that prove racism is alive and seething in
this country.And, it is not racism of whites hating blacks. It is a
racism against anyone who demands equal treatment, respect for the law, and that
all people be responsible for their actions.George Zimmerman is not
a racist. Those who are now threatening Zimmerman, either with physical
violence or legal actions (essentially forcing him into bankruptcy from ruinous
legal bills from frivolous charges or suits).Dr. Martin Luther King
would be appalled at how "racism" has been distorted and exploited.Good luck to Mr. Zimmerman. He should never be criticized, or
prosecuted, for exercising his inherent right to self defense, as further
codified by Florida laws.