The Swallow investigation is a chance to restore public trust

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  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 11, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    Thanks 2bits, I stand corrected.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 3:55 p.m.

    Government Man,
    I agree with you that both parties abuse their power when they have unlimited power. It's human nature. We've seen it Nationally (both when Republicans controlled Congress when Bush was President, and when there was a Democrat Super-Majority when Obama was President). BOTH parties have a history of abusing their power, and when they do... the people didn't like it... and the people made adjustments the first chance they got (in the mid-term elections) and restored a balance.

    Whenever one party thinks they can wipe the other party off the map... we have problems.

    I assume we have the same problem in Utah. Though having power over Utah politics, and having full control over National politics are way different things.

    Utah actually does very little politically (compared to what goes on in Washington), and Utah has very little power in Washington. But I think more balance WOULD be a good thing in Utah. But that's not going to happen.. EVER.. as long as Utah Democrats are forced to support a pro-abortion platform.

    If they dropped that... I think they would immediately start winning more elections in Utah.

  • Government Man Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    One Party control of a country or a state is not a healthy situation. It does not matter if it is Democrats or Republicans that are in total charge, there will be corruption. Utah has a very well run efficient state. The same thing could have been said for Nazi Germany and World War Era Japan. It takes a viable two party system to help foster good government.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    Real Maverick is saying is... I won't trust the investigation anyway. That's the attitude I'm talking about. The investigation isn't going to change any minds that are already made up (like Maverick's).

    The investigation is useless to people like this who's mind is already made up, and who are already distrusting the investigation, before it's even done. The investigation won't help people like this. Nothing will.


    I get what you're saying about Bob Bennett and the primary, but what you said is factually not correct. Bob Bennett didn't lose in a Primary. He didn't even make it to the Primary. Bennett was defeated on May 8, 2010, at the Utah Republican Convention after finishing third in the second round of balloting, to Mike Lee and Tim Bridgewater (Bridgewater and Lee met in the Republican Primary, not Bennett).

    But you are right that many times the most important race is in the Primary (not the General Election). But that's the case in MANY States. Not just Utah.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    July 10, 2013 11:49 a.m.

    Government Man
    Cottonwood Heights, UT
    You forget to add California, New York, New Jersey, and other states with a one party system. Utah is considered to be well run and fiscally responsible as opposed to the above mentioned states. It's not that issues are not debated in Utah. In Utah it is usually the primary and not the general election that selects representation. The moderate Bob Bennett fell victim to a primary challenge, not the general election.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    Government Man,
    I don't think ANYBODY has said "Don't do the investigation". Not the article. Not any comments. Not Swallow. Not Republicans. Am I wrong? So I think you are arguing a position nobody's taken (that's called a "strawman" argument). May be fun, but useless.

    I think even the Republican establishment you already don't trust wants the investigation. Am I wrong?

    Who doesn't want an investigation?

  • Government Man Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    There has been way too many issues involving Swallow to not launch an investigation. Mr. Swallow should be put on paid administrative leave, pending the investigation. This happens in every other public sector job, if someone has been accused of wrong doing. Should Mr. Swallow be treated any differently than police officers, teachers, or other government employees, accused of wrong doing? The leaders in Utah's Legislature have a trust problem with a lot of Utah Voters. The State of Utah currently has some of the lowest voting rates in the Country. It is time for the State Legislature to stand up and do the right thing. One party government does not work in China, Russia, or Utah!!

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 10, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    IMO the investigation is a GOOD thing. Because it is the right thing to do. Even politicians deserve to have an impartial investigation or jury (not a partisan group or politicians, or a media circus to decide their fate).

    But I disagree that it is a chance to restore trust.

    The investigation will not change some people's minds. Some people have him guilty already and just wondering how much time he'll spend in prison already. So if the investigation doesn't agree with their pre-judice.. they will just complain and distrust even more believing that the system is corrupt. And if the investigation agrees with their pre-judged beliefs... they will just distrust even more.

    The investigation probably won't change any minds.... but it's the right thing to do.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    July 10, 2013 7:03 a.m.

    It's not good enough to merely investigate and then sweep everything under the rug. I'm worried that our legislature is just too buddy buddy with him to do what's right.

    If we are truly concerned about restoring public trust then he must be impeached and new rules and regulations for our AG office must be passed to prevent these shenanigans from happening again.