Man involved in '88 standoff at Utah polygamous compound set to be released

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  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    July 11, 2013 8:57 p.m.

    Are Polygamous families law abiding citizens? The last I knew, practicing Polygamy was still breaking the law.

  • Harrison Lapahie Shiprock, NM
    July 9, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    This is what happened. John Singer, an ex-Mormon but good man, wanted to home teach his children, with an education that was practical, as how to fix common car problems, how to fix things around the house (wiring, home building, etc.), and he was teaching his children that. But the Utah educational system, which didn't have practical programs in their public schools at that time, wanted John's children to have a traditional schooling (math, reading, learning English). So John just didn't bring his children to school, and the officers walked onto his land and approached his house. John was working on his car and had a weapon. When John turned around with the weapon, the officers reacted and shot him. John died, and a majority of Utah citizens were mad at the officers for shooting John. The officer who shot John was never charged and was moved to another location for his protection. John felt Mormons just followed the Prophet like soldiers marching step-in-step never questioning.

    The original incident destroyed a wonderful family, and caused the incident of this article. The officers didn't handle the situation correctly! It could have been avoided!

  • snowman Provo, UT
    July 8, 2013 5:17 p.m.

    DN Subscriber 2: Federal officers did not set the fire in Waco. That fire was set from inside

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    July 8, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    Prayers for Mr House's family during this time. That was a terrible time.

  • Te Amo Salt Lake City, UT
    July 8, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    Isn't it amazing that government can commit criminal acts against citizens without punishment but if citizens respond in kind, they must be punished for "Their" criminal acts. How did this happen in a free country with a Constitution written to protect our people from this kind of garbage? In this case it's the government that should have initially been on trial.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    July 8, 2013 5:08 a.m.

    Re: "There seem to be different standards of behavior and prosecution for federal agents and 'civilians.'"

    Yeah -- real people understand that criminals SHOULD be treated differently. And, that criminals can't invoke immunity from prosecution for their crimes by cynically and intentionally using their kids and other innocents as human shields.

    It's hard for me to see how this miscreant has accepted responsibility for his crimes by mouthing words to the effect that his only mistake was not finding another place to live, where authorities would be more tolerant of his crimes.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    July 7, 2013 10:09 p.m.

    I am glad Mr. Swapp has reformed his ways after receiving appropriate punishment for the death of a person in a "surrounded compound" situation.

    However, you really have to ask why is it that Swapp went to prison for 25 years, but no punishment at all for the federal agent who killed Randy Weaver's wife in the door of his surrounded cabin while she held a baby.

    In Waco, the "Branch Davidians" were holed up in their compound, and surrounding officers set fire to the place (intentional or accidental is up for debate) and 76 men women and children died in the fire. No punishment for any of the officers.

    There seem to be different standards of behavior and prosecution for federal agents and "civilians." There should be NO deaths in these "surrounded compound" situations, but when there are, people need to be held responisble.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    July 7, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    Although I can understand the Swapp's/Singer's frustration over the loss of John Singer, violence is not the answer. Hopefully Swapp and his family have learned this lesson and can now move on. The forgiveness being shown by House's widow is inspirational.