Freedom, properly understood, means people working together

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  • Wally West SLC, UT
    July 6, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Doesn't 'working together' consensus & (gasp!)compromise?

    Aren't those traits the 1st 2 steps on the road to socialism??

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    Senator Lee, I have recently retired. Thank God (not you) I have medicare. But my wife is younger than me so I will need to pay COBRA on her for 18 months. But my former employer is being slow getting the COBRA letter to me. Soooo, right now my wife is uninsured. I would have to come up with money upfront to pay for her critical RX's and any medical care. I could be destroyed in a matter of minutes financially. So in fact I HAVE NO RIGHTS, unlike yourself with your big fat congressional pay and health care package. Thanks for nothing!

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    July 4, 2013 5:05 p.m.

    When will this governmental tea party stalwart quit pontificating and do some actual work for the good of the American people?

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    July 4, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    "...Both in our free-enterprise economy and our voluntary civil society, success in America is ultimately based not on competition, but cooperation...".


    Cooperation, by Republican Senator Mike Lee and his band of obstructionist Republican cohorts?

    Cooperation, by Republicans, in the House, who say, " is good to oppose the black guy in the White House..."?

    Cooperation, by Republicans who from 1/20/09 going forward have tried to impeach the POTUS?

    Cooperation, by Republicans who vowed from the date of the 2008 election to obstruct all legislation in order to make the POTUS a one term President?

    "...success in America is ultimately based on...cooperation...".

    So, with an agenda that from the get-go was premised on obstruction, the Republicans were planning to sabotage success in America.


  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    July 4, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    Oh please, spare us the sanctimony, Sen. Lee. You and your party are the ones telling us we're all on our own.
    BTW, with all your talk about personal responsibility, when do you intend to compensate the bank depositors who lost money when you "short sold" your mansion and welched on your mortgage?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    July 4, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    Senator Lee is very articulate, and his lofty words certainly sound nice, a feel-good message on the 4th of July.

    But does he live in the same economy the rest of us do? "We're all in this together"? Is he talking about Capitalism in the US today? Is he including the financiers like Mitt Romney, who move their money off-shore to avoid paying for schools and public service programs here?

    "Ask yourself, 'How can I help'?" Maybe he means "how can I help myself?", like taking a short-sale on his own house, and slipping out of a couple of hundred thousand bucks worth of obligation to lenders.

    So, the next time you see your job evaporate due to technological progress, or because the corporation, chasing additional profits, moves your job to another country, just remember to ask, "how can I help?", and remind them "we're all in this together", and see how that message helps.

    If Senator Lee truly believes we're all in this together, economically, he really should share whatever it is he's smoking, because the rest of us could use some of that substance, too.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 4, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    Freedom is having the time, ability and permission to do what you as an individual wants to do.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    July 4, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    We need to be careful about how strongly we consider our rights and nation as divinely inspired or empowered. Horrible things have been done in the name of religion because it bodes no consideration or challenge. It's a little more humble, but I think we're safer to consider our institutions mortal and responsible to man.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 4, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Lee's propaganda is all well and good. What he says is true, but only to the extent possible when generous people have the ABILITY to donate. But when family incomes have been drastically cut for so many middle class families that parents may be forced to work more than one job, when personal medical expenses or other economic factors push families to the brink, then their ability to donate money or even volunteer time is affected and limited.

    I have only one question, and I wish Senator Lee would actually answer it in plain English.

    Senator Lee, when do you plan to simply stop saying NO to everything and make a sincere effort to get along with others in the Congressional sandbox?

    This letter is a disgusting example of the blatant hypocrisy of Senator Lee and most of his Republican colleagues.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    July 4, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    You may believe Mr. Lee that life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are God given but they mean little until they are incorporated into a system of government that honors those concepts. In fact the idea that freedoms are God given often gets in the way of a full expression of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, just ask those seeking marriage equality today.

    Freedoms do require responsibility and I personally believe that in many cases our government has done a poor job of enabling responsibility as it guarantees freedom, however, to hear a rich white kid raised with every privilege talk about responsibility just because nobody took his privileged law school tests for him is offensive. And the irony of Mike Lee talking about how the founding principles require cooperation..well that's beyond the pale.

  • Bob01 Layton, Utah
    July 4, 2013 2:25 a.m.

    I see where Mr. Lee is going w/his voluntary civil society statement. Mr. Lee-you think all someone has to do is reach out to their community & everything will be hunky dory w/roses & sunshine 'cause everyone always jumps at the chance to voluntarily help whoever is in need? I challenge Mr. Lee to visit Primary Children's. That wonderful hospital has to run several fundraising programs every year & STILL has to write-off MILLIONS each year. Why would they ever have to do that if all these great voluntary organizations are so successful, as Mr. Lee claims? And that's just one hospital in one city! Then guess who will be FORCED to pay higher premiums because of hospital write-offs? That's right, those w/insurance. So voluntary charity is helpful, but doesn't cut it, or no hospital would ever have to write anything off. So what's the alternative? I thought Republicans were the party of life? Do we allow people to die if no one wants to volunteer to help them live? Visit any hospital Mr. Lee. There are many at each one w/no volunteers coming to their rescue.