House takes up own immigration fix; no special pathway to citizenship

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  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2013 12:58 p.m.

    "The final version of the bill was a reconciliation or some other procedural thing that allowed it to pass without voting on it again."

    They eventually did vote on it but reconciliation was for an attachment that was budgetary and thus required only 50 instead of 60 votes to pass the senate (which is important since Brown was elected between the initial vote and the reconciliation vote).

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    Whatever, just pass something to bring it to the conference committee.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    July 1, 2013 2:53 p.m.

    Citizenship is a red herring.
    Most of the illegal aliens only want to work here (for our wages) and send money home. They don't care about citizenship.
    (Their Green Card-holding cousins are NOT naturalizing.)
    So, the House is going to play tough and take citizenship off the table, try to pass a bill and the amnesty crowd will laugh all the way to the bank.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 1, 2013 1:39 p.m.

    I can see legal status, as the article states, but not citizenship. If the repubs ever want to win the WH again, they should avoid creating 11 million more dem voters.

  • The Solution Las Cruces, NM
    July 1, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    This is politics at its worse. The democrats are using the immigration issue, which is a very serious issue, as a power play to force republicans hand just to garner more votes, without caring what the populace thinks or what is best for this country. The only reason they want this is to bolster their voting base, as the vast majority of Latinos vote democrat. They have not performed any study to see what it will cost both short and long term to grant this group citizenship, not realizing how many Latinos live off of current welfare programs. I'm independent, but this is poor. Shame on politicians who sell their soul for votes, beit Democrat or Republican. Do the right thing and quit giving special privillege to an illegal group over all other nationals who try to enter through the legitmate processes of this country.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    July 1, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    The house needs to drop the immigration bill. They shouldn't even bother to write one. Lets go back a few years to the ACA bill. The Senate had their version, the House passed another. The final version of the bill was a reconciliation or some other procedural thing that allowed it to pass without voting on it again.

    What does the House think will happen this time?

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    July 1, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    Republicans, she advised, should follow the Senate lead "if they ever want to win a presidential race." Is it interesting that so many of the lefty Dems are so concerned about the Repubs ever winning another election. Remember the old saying where there is smoke there is fire.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    July 1, 2013 6:08 a.m.

    At least we have hope that if any bill passes it will require those who ignored our laws to return home and begin the legal entry process behind those who are already doing it according to our current laws.
    The Senate Bill will only slow illegal immigration by 25% according to the CBO. So that means in another 10 years we will again be looking at millions of people breaking our immigration laws who will want a new and easier pathway to citizenship.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 30, 2013 10:54 p.m.

    The benefit of the House of Representatives is they represent the people. The House of Lords are their own royalty and our nations majesties with 6-year terms and limitless election potential. They are the elites and almost as self-important as the Supreme Court Justices that can be there forever. The Caiaphas can be very powerful even with an innocent man or cause in the court. Designing men and women can interpolate the law instead of interpret the law. Smooth talking and adorned by the Press and media, the court has gone beyond their bounds due to public marketing for high ratings on the late night circuit.

    The Court may be non-elected but the House of Representatives speak for the people in equal districts by size of population, not necessarily power. Our Founding Fathers had some special thoughts on small and large states. Unfortunately, 100 years ago, Senators became more powerful in how they are chosen.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2013 9:23 p.m.

    Glad to see the end of the tea party. This will force three parties and the tea party will be blamed as it should for their obstructionist antics.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 30, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    Explain to me how rewarding illegal activity (crossing without papers, overstaying visas, getting jobs by fraudulent means, etc.) is going to discourage future unlawful presence?
    Explain to me how legalizing them benefits our economy at a time when 27 million low-skilled citizens are sitting out the economy.
    Explain to me why we want to give work permits to eight million illegal aliens when we have 10 million teens who cannot find a job.
    If ever there was a concept that fed the special interests like unions, churches, the Chamber, Latino activists with ZERO benefits to the voters, this is it.
    Just say NO to amnesty and YES to interior enforcement.

  • Big Bubba Herriman, UT
    June 30, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    I am glad to hear some common sense proposed immigration legislation coming from the House. The Senate's bill amounts to amnesty, in my opinion.

  • spicey saltlakecity, UT
    June 30, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    Let the first comment pass the censorship board by saying I wish ALL ILLEGALS become citizens immediately.

  • VickieB SLC, UT
    June 30, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    Using the minority threat is getting old. Instead of talking the issue, they are using a false argument. Democrats have been the party of minorities for decades.

    Let's hope the House is more responsible than the Senate. The Senate bill uses the Social security trust funds to pay for their bill, instead of the general fund. There is no 179 billion contributed in 10 years, it's coming from our retirement. If they had paid for their bill out of the general fund it would of been a net loss of 14.7 billion.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    June 30, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    the picture of nancy pelosi begs the question, where is her green card?