Affirmative action

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  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 1, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    If it's critical that a University keep it's demographics the same as the general population... how about the basketball team? Or the football team?

    Ever watched the NCAA tournament or bowl games? Did the demographics on the field match the same demographics as the general population? So... are these schools "Racist"?

    Fact is... the coaches AREN'T "Racist". And neither is a non-racially biased admissions policy.

  • cns St George, Utah
    June 30, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    "The Way to Stop Discrimination on the Basis of Race Is To Stop Discriminating on the Basis of Race". Chief Justice John Roberts

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2013 9:33 p.m.

    "The difficulty, however, is to channel these good impulses into a policy that doesn't perpetuate the underlying problem."


    Especially when, as "Affirmative" Action does so blatantly, when the policy **institutionalizes** the very racism/sexism it ostensibly seeks to reduce or eradicate! That is not only a "difficult" policy, it is a hypocritical and counter productive one.

  • the old switcharoo mesa, AZ
    June 29, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    A university trying to keep it's demographics the same as the general population is not racism. It works in favor of white kids going to historically black colleges that have under represented Caucasian numbers. Look it up.

    It would work in a white person's favor if you really want a job at a company where white's are under represented.

  • THE MTN MAN Taylorsville, UT
    June 29, 2013 2:50 p.m.

    "A color-blind society that eschews official or even voluntary segregation is inherently preferable to the alternative."

    The editorial board needs to think before they write this stuff. Justice Thomas didn't say anything about segregation. He said that forcing artificial diversity is wrong, and there's no justification for it. Nobody said anything about segregation - voluntary or otherwise.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    Racism is wrong. End racism. End affirmative action

    Dr king is with me

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 29, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    The supreme court kicked the decision back to the lower court, but instructed them to apply a judicial standard known as "strict scrutiny". As a practical matter, no law ever survives strict scrutiny. The court just killed affirmative action without admitting that they did.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    June 29, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    Generally, I agree. Using discrimination to fight discrimination is tricky. It should be seldom used and carefully tailored. It is especially problematic in hiring situations unless you are trying to solve a deep and ingrained problem of past discrimination. In any such solution, we need to understand that we can only achieve rough equality. The percentages do not need to match exactly the general population.

    Higher education is one place where I feel some amount of discriminatory fix can be useful. So many kids come from very disadvantaged homes or schools but have the talent. To assume they can come in with the same resume as upper class white kid from the suburbs would be ludicrous.

    Some movement on this issue has been toward looking at the disadvantage rather than the race. I think that is wise. There are clearly kids of all races who are advantaged and others who are disadvantaged. For a university to have a program to reach out to the less advantaged (in a society where education bestows so much advantage) can be the best long-term help toward social mobility.

    Also, a strong educational start helps eliminate any "need" for bias in the hiring process.