NSA leaker Edward Snowden charged with espionage, theft

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  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 24, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    Let's get this right!--The IRS, and NSA are guilty of espionage.

    What's so hard about? The IRS, and NSA are guilty of espionage.

    Why do people allow this?

    If our country were set into families of three, and we equally divided the national debt,- each family would have 178 million dollars. That's enough to buy insurance, food, medical care, a nice house, car, etc.

    It's crazy! Our people would rather have poverty, crooked leaders,and be spied on.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    lost in DC
    search youtube "Cheney gave STAND DOWN ORDER" (CAPS used here because that is how the youtube title is written)

    It is the testimony of Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta during the National Commission on September 11th Attacks.

    Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!"

    I stopped viewing those shows that you listed a couple years ago when could no longer tolerate their bias.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    June 22, 2013 10:59 p.m.

    I still say he shouldn't be charged when the POTUS has told us that the NSA operations are transparent.

    People in glass building have no secrets, so Snowden revealed no secrets. No espionage. No crime.

    It is so simple.

    His real crime is that he doesn't make the president look good, so they will prosecute.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 22, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    most dems voted for the patriot act when it was first passed and a dem senate voted for renewal and a dem POTUS signed it. you cannot lay sole blame on bush.

    the secret court that issues the orders was first established under Carter (D)

    but don't let facts get in the way of your irrational bush hatred.

    JiminSLC - where did you get your conspiracy theory? moveondotorg, rachel madcow, bill maher, or msnbc?

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Mention of Cheney is not a sidetrack. We need whistleblowers like Snowden and Manning to expose the corruption that is in our government. Disclosing the information openly as Snowden did is probably not the best way, but I don't think that there is any other way at this time. Manning tried to give the information he had to the NY Times. After the Times indicated no interest he turned to wikileaks. Snowden has said that he has more data, I suspect that Cheney may be concerned about what information he may have.

    Everybody has something in their life that they wish to remain private. If NSA snooping found something about me, that is of no consequence. But, how about Anthony Weiner or David Petraeus, how were their secrets found and revealed and the impact that has in government. Why did Justice Roberts unexplainably reverse his decision on Obamacare? People that know the secrets of others have control of those people if they do not want the information made public. This makes the NSA surveillance a very powerful force in influencing the direction of policy. A power it should not have.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 22, 2013 10:07 a.m.

    Snowden charged with espionage and theft of government property in the NSA surveillance case.

    If we the people, are the paying employers of government, than there is no secret property, and surveillance. Period!


    People on the dole, and with less than an HS degree should not be voting. Why do you think our country is on the decline?

    Voting for someone, because their name was on a sign, or bold false promises, is not very smart.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    June 22, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    Let's not get sidetracked. Snowden complains he doesn't want to live under surveillance and runs off to a place is not exactly the freedom paradise he says he wants to live in. Makes you say hmmmmm.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 9:27 a.m.


    It is on record that Dick Cheney was in the Pentagon, the building with the most defensive weapons in America to protect against attack, on 9/11, monitoring the incoming aircraft and when the aircraft was 10 miles out was asked "Do the orders still stand", at which he got irate and replied "Of course the order still stands, have you heard anything to the contrary". Cheney is, in my opinion, guilty of far worse than Snowden.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 22, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    @JWB - "he was skimming the information off the circuits and collecting 10s of thousands for Wiki and others" .... ummm... you don't know who computer systems work - do you. It is probably hard for you to believe, because you don't understand how easy it is to walk out the door with your employers data. It happens every day... just not with the impact as the two events you mentioned.

    "Our President isn't at the battlefront but almost everything he does is a battle against history and traditions including law and order of our country" - This might sound profound on talk radio.... but honestly, "everything he does is a battle against history"? Which history? This nation has one thing that is consistent through out its history - and that is change. In 1800, fewer than 40% of adults in this country had the "right" to vote. Is that the history you think needs preserving?

    What part of our history is being violated? Our history is a continued progression of basic human rights being expanded to more and more of its people. That is our history - whether you like it or not.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 21, 2013 10:43 p.m.

    Politicians leak when politically convenient without repercussions, even at the voting booth. They can withhold information if it is politically convenient for them. What is the example of the past?

    It is hard to believe that a PFC could have done as much damage as he did without the "system" knowing he was skimming the information off the circuits and collecting 10s of thousands for Wiki and others. The same with this NSA contractor and even the Office of Personnel Management's system that granted him a clearance and access from another contractor.

    Who is minding the store? The President has been campaigning for 6 years and needs to sit down and govern. Abraham Lincoln even sat down and governed at the telegraph office. Our President isn't at the battlefront but almost everything he does is a battle against history and traditions including law and order of our country. President LBJ's new order took a back seat when Nixon became President, good, bad or ugly. This President is still campaigning as he doesn't want the next President to do the same as President Nixon. Nixon used his power woefully negligent but impacted our nation for decades later.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    June 21, 2013 10:04 p.m.

    Salt Lake City, UT
    I can't believe the animosity expressed toward this man. If he had not blown the whistle the country would still be ignorant of the NSA spying on American citizens"

    You ever bother to read the Patriot Act? Yeah, GW Bush signed that and that is where it all began. I have been aware of this and am not at all surprised.

    Snowden could have run anywhere, he chose to run to China? Hmm, why would someone do that? You really think the authorities there will give him asylum without an exchange for information? I don't usually agree with Dick Cheney but I think he is right when he points out that Snowden conducted espionage against the US.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 9:23 p.m.

    I can't believe the animosity expressed toward this man. If he had not blown the whistle the country would still be ignorant of the NSA spying on American citizens. If Manning had not disclosed what were obvious war crimes, we would be ignorant of atrocities committed by the military and more so by contractors/mercenaries. The military may be drawing down in Afghanistan but the number of contractors there is still over 100,000. For the money that we taxpayers are charged for each contractor we could pay wages for 10 enlisted men.

    So you would rather the NSA continue to spy on the public? In my opinion, there are a lot of corrupt people in our government and until their secrets are brought to light, the American people cannot change things.

    It took a lot of courage for him to do what he did, giving up a high paying job and home in Hawaii. As Snowden said, his biggest fear was that the American people would learn of these things and they would do nothing. Sadly, I think his fear is justified.

  • Bryan Syracuse, UT
    June 21, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    Snowden is a whistleblower, and should be protected as such. The real traitors are every single person who participated in the illegal surveillance of American citizens. They should be rounded up, prosecuted, and thrown in prison.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 21, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    Many of our political leaders are leaking.

  • owlmaster2 Kaysville, UT
    June 21, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    Where is a CIA Drone when you need one?

    Get this guy.

  • JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt Beverly Hills, CA
    June 21, 2013 7:54 p.m.

    Snowden is delusional if he thinks he can stay in Hong Kong and not provide any information in order to stay there.

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    forget about negotiations with the Chinese,just send in seal team to extract his butt over here and into jail where he belongs.