IRS official: Washington scrutinized very first tea party application and dozens more

IRS supervisor says she thought 'tea party' was label for conservative and liberal groups

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  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 18, 2013 1:43 p.m.


    It is one of those rare moments I actually completly agree with you. Her incompetent handling of this situation is inexcusable and she needs to be fired not just replaced.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    June 18, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    Ms Paz should be fired for being so uniformed about society. If she is to oversee the work of people approving or disapproving tax exempt applications, and they start using a term that she does not have any direct knowledge of, shouldn't she at read up about it?

    If people started applying for tax exempt status for Occupy Wall Street groups, and I had not idea what they were I would at least spend 5 minutes doing a google search to unerstand them.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    June 18, 2013 11:24 a.m.

    I am just totally shocked! Aren't you? And, yes, of course, "Tea Party" has always been associated with liberals. Another little known fact.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 18, 2013 6:53 a.m.

    @mainly me

    So considering that list of unfounded claims I can agree with you on the consperecy theorist comment, beyond that I think your comment really speaks for itself.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 18, 2013 12:11 a.m.

    @maiy me

    So then you previous comment was a self reflection on the depths of unfounded consericies you went through to avoid the reality that your view of the world was not shared by the majority of americians or the facts. Good to know.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    June 17, 2013 10:32 p.m.


    Fairly elected? Are you sure? I realize my doubt seems a bit conspiracy theorist, but there are a lot of questionable results in precincts where the Dear Leader received 99%-100% of the vote. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for me to stomach. Add this to the systematic suppression of unfavorable press by the liberal media, the documented revision of training materials by the FBI eliminating things like Islamic terrorism, the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS, the classifying as potential terrorists people who believe in the 2nd Amendment, preparation for disaster, people who believe in end time prophecy, etc., I'm more inclined to believe in a lot more voter fraud than most people.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 17, 2013 6:00 p.m.

    @mainly me

    I agree J and chris seem to have a real difficult time facing reality.

    From the article “Paz, however, provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.”

    Also from the article “Cummings said the manager, who was not identified, confirmed that the White House was not involved.”

    I know it is difficult for J and chris to accept that President Obama was fairly elected twice by the majority of Americans and it is truly sad that they seem bent on undoing the will of the voting public at any cost to their own personal morals or integrity.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    June 17, 2013 5:07 p.m.


    "'the source' clearly stated that the Obama administration played no role in this situation..."

    Let me quote from Wikipedia:

    Denial is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.

    The subject may use:
    simple denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
    minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)
    projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility by blaming somebody or something else.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    June 17, 2013 4:40 p.m.

    @J Thomas

    So either you conveniently did not bother reading the article or you think no one else would. The article very clearly states that the person that testified "the source" clearly stated that the Obama administration played no role in this situation and that it was clearly a case of mismanagement of the field investigators by their supervisors who failed to understand and respond to their questions. You are entitled to your opinions mike but you are not entitled to make up your own facts and may want to consider we all have access to the article before deciding to blatantly lying.

    @chris b

    Since the article clearly states that the person giving the testimony and in fact all the testimony so far has clear stated that his administration played no role in the situation then no he does not and should not.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 17, 2013 4:17 p.m.


    No, their job is to apply tax law EVENLY and FAIRLY, not single out groups for special enforcement based on their political leanings.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 17, 2013 3:38 p.m.

    That's what the IRS should be doing. It's their job.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    June 17, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    And why shouldn't the IRS scrutinize such an application? Political organization are not tax-exempt, and this organization openly declared itself a political organization. If I were an examiner and I saw an application for tax-exempt status from the "Democratic Party," I would scrutinize it most carefully. Only charitable/educational organizations are exempt, NOT political ones.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    well barack?

    Do you have accountability for ANYTHING that happens in this countr

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    June 17, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    Yet another source telling us that the Obama administration is lying. Yet another government employee who was instructed to do something unethical and illegal. Yet another proof that the Obama administration denial that the I.R.S. was being used for political purposes is a lie.

    No one can trust anything that the Obama administration has said, what it now says, and what it will say to cover up other scandals.

    No citizen, conservative or liberal, can be expected to listen to accept lies from any administration. No citizen, conservative or liberal, can support an administration that has abused us, and abused the Constitution.

    No matter what political views we may have, the one thing that we must demand from government is TRUTH. If Obama was not ashamed of what he is doing, he wouldn't be lying to the citizens of this country.