Immigration bill could decide 2016, senator says

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  • VickieB SLC, UT
    June 17, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    Democrats want amnesty, Americans are against amnesty.
    Republicans want enforcement, Americans want enforcement.

    By 2016 people will know the secret loopholes hidden in the bill.

    We need harsh penalties for employers and those here illegally in the bill. Paying $1000 that is put in a fund to help them gain citizenship is not a penalty.

  • Mr. Bean Pheonix, AZ
    June 17, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    "Waived and exempt is used 1.17 times per page."

    Good point, Lars. Once amnesty is given to the 11 million illegals (mostly Hispanic), any effort to shut off the influx of illegals will be forgotten. Our borders will never be secured nor will the visa problem (overstays) be solved. Democrats are leading the effort in order to get the Hispanic vote to stay in office and to control all three branches of government in the 2014 election. They are essentially trading the sovereignty of our nation for a vote.

    I hope the Republicans will not yield and stick to 'secure the borders first.'

  • SLars Provo, UT
    June 17, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    Long and difficult? Send them home to come back legally.

    If we allow them to stay, they will receive amnesty to stay and work.
    Business will receive amnesty for illegally hiring them.
    Organizations Churches and individuals who encouraged them to come and stay will receive amnesty.

    I guess the authors of the article figure 13 years is long enough, that we won't care, or will forget about it. But allowing them to stay and work is what they want, and under the law, the 13 years can be waived. Waived and exempt is used 1.17 times per page.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    June 17, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    Let's see...

    Democrats - Willing to damage America's sovereignty for the Hispanic vote to stay in office. They want amnesty before borders are secured which means millions more illegals will show up in this country to get the same benefits.

    Republicans - Know full well if borders are not secured, millions more illegals will pour into this country and that a nation without control of its borders is no sovereign nation. Republicans are not willing to exchange votes for destroying America.

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    June 17, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    I wish the Deseret News would quit running propaganda pieces put out by the AP. This article couldn't be more wrong if it tried. Even if Romney would've gotten 70% of the Latino vote (a number never achieved by a Republican), he still would have lost. Passing this bill will give the Democrats a decades long boost of voters.

    I don't see any articles reporting the Mob of 200 illegal aliens and supporters show showed up at the personal residence of Kansas Secretary of State, Kris Kobach over the weekend. Why the silence, Deseret News editors? Is this type of intimidating behavior condoned now, at least in certain cases when the victim has a conservative viewpoint on issues?

  • Informed Voter South Jordan, UT
    June 17, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Republicans who support amnesty are way off base. The majority of Americans oppose amnesty for immigration law breakers. Not for one second do I believe illegals will need to wait years for citizenship --- especially since today the Supreme Court ruled proof of citizenship is not required to vote! Can you believe that? The vote was 7-2. Oh, how I miss the America I grew up in.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Isn't it more than a little unfortunate that illegal trespassers have forced us to decide between enforcing the laws, or (possibly)who will be President in 2016?

    I'm not so sure Democrats care more about illegal trespassers than they do their own legal neighbors. But I do think the "party leaders" think they can win elections if they're able to "reform" immigration laws.

    There is NOTHING wrong with the current immigration laws, except they don't get enforced.

    When law enforcement is politicized, BOTH parties lose.

  • Brotherly Kindness SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 17, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    "Lawmakers from both parties voted to begin formal debate on a proposal that would give an estimated 11 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally ***a long and difficult path to citizenship***."

    Long and difficult? My behind! It's gonna be a walk in the park.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    June 17, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    Unless the border is secured and worker identification is enacted this will be a collossal disaster that will bring another 40 million lawbreakers across our borders in the next 15 years.
    At best these people should receive a chance to return home and file for citizenship the legal way without penalty. But they should not be rewarded with a new path to citizenship while they remain within our borders.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    June 17, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    It is blatantly obvious that the Democrats are salivating over this amnesty bill. Owing to the fact that the birth rate among core Democrat voters is about half that of Republican voters, the Democrats need a massive infusion of new voters.

    Before 1987 California was a Republican stronghold. The 1987 amnesty bill turned California into a Democrat stronghold.

    Those Republicans who believe that Latino's are ever going to vote Republican en mass are deluding themselves.

    Democrats insisted on amnesty provisions in the 1987 immigration reform bill.
    Democrats made it illegal to ask if a person was legally in the US in the Motor Voter Bill.
    Democrats punish American's defending themselves from illegal aliens in southern Arizona.
    Democrats punish boarder agents for doing their job.

    Lindsy Graham and like minded Republican's are committing political suicide.
    If the Republican leadership supports this bill, this life long conservative Republican predicts that one of two things will happen:

    1. The religious conservatives will take over the Republican party.
    2. The religious conservatives will bolt the party and form a third party.

    Neither option will ever produce a Republican majority in congress or take the White House.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    June 17, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    Immigration is a win/win proposition for Democrats. If the bill fails they can continue painting the GOP as a bunch of out of touch, old, angry white guys and if passes they get more latino voters. It's all good.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 17, 2013 6:35 a.m.

    Translation: This is all about Latino votes.