Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb: Should Utahns be worried about NSA monitoring?

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  • Fitz Murray, UT
    June 17, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Mr. Webb, if you truly believe that NSA can and should gather metadata on all US Citizens, then you, along with most of Congress, the Federal Courts, and the Executive Branch, turned have turned your back on the 4th Amendment to the Constitution. There is nothing in the Constitution that puts national security ahead of our Constitutional rights. We are allowing government, including Congress, the President (past and present),and the Appellate Courts right up to the State and Federal Supreme Courts, to slowly erode our rights under the Constitution. And with journalists promoting this erosion, who is left to protect our Constitutional rights?

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    June 17, 2013 3:29 a.m.

    "And now, dear little children, who may this story read,
    To idle, silly, flattering words, I pray you ne’er give heed;
    Unto an evil counselor close heart, and ear, and eye,
    And take a lesson from this tale of the Spider and the Fly."

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    June 16, 2013 11:45 p.m.

    If they employ me at the Camp Williams datacenter then I'm all for surveillance!

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 12:58 a.m.

    If we are going to have a line for people to come to this country, you can't reward those that bypass the line. They need to be sent to the back of the line. That doesn't mean you should stop treating them like people. I am in favor of simplifying and fixing legal immigration.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized

    I believe Swallow is in danger of being investigated by the House. If he succeeds in answering their questions at any time prior to 2pm on Wed. or at least prior to the House Poll of members, he has a chance to avoid impeachment.
    Perhaps that is why he is now answering lots of questions.
    The top part of the letter sent to John Fellows was a stupid idea, in my opinion. Of course the House has enough questions to warrant an investigation re: impeachment.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2013 12:53 a.m.

    Immigration "reform". One big fight over a bill no one likes. Lets pick up the low hanging fruit.

    The visa bill that Sen. Lee had and Sen. Hatch put in the the larger immigration bill. The I-Squared Act. Lets pull it back out and pass it separately.

    We need to fix legal immigration. The best plan I have seen is to have a decent no quota but sponsored system of immigration with the ability later to become a citizen, Rep. Dougall's bill 2011 HB 469 in 2011 has the first part of that.

    We need a simple E-Verify law for companies 15 or larger to protect against ID theft.

    If the "big" US immigration bill passes it will just further divide us, just like the attempt to combine immigration bills in to one bill, 2011 HB 116 did. You get a bill that no one really likes. We need more consensus building and less compromise. If we focus on what we agree on, we can accomplish the most good.

    Congress should run a bunch of small simple bills. Then we actually may get something that will help business, families, and our nation.