Look for alternative ways to make public money go further

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  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 12, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Ultra Bob


    My difference to your philosophy stems from my notion that in our world it is people that are most important. Your philosophy seems to put money before people.

    When the government is used to promote business such as tourism, new business operations, conventions, and all manner of non-governmental functions, the expense falls onto the resident and the profit goes to business. Sometimes most of the profit goes to outside business owners.

    The creation of temporary jobs causes more expense to local government that often doesn’t end when the jobs are gone.

    When governments compete with each other for business profits, they are simple attempting to steal from the other governments venue.

    I feel that government should favor services to all it’s citizens and business should do it’s own promoting.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    Forget about "making tax dollars go further" instead, we need to just focus on eliminating spending on everything that is not a constitutionally mandated function of that level of government, AND absolutely essential.

    Too much government money goes to buying votes, or some socialist scheme to redistribute wealth.

    Government should make sure the needy are not taken advantage of, and that there are few bars to their improving their lot in life. However, taking the fruits of the hard work of one man to give them to another who chooses not to work as hard is immoral and unfair to both. Get the government out of the welfare business.

    Get out of private sector operations, (Liquor stores need not be state run, and can still contribute $$$ to the state.) Cut administrative bloat, especially in education. Drug test and residency check all welfare recipients. Reject flimsy "disability" claims.

    Cut the spending!

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 11, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    We can start by prohibiting $13 million dollar handouts to losing contractors. We can then move to getting rid of a clown AG. And then, cut all benefits and pay for local and national legislators by half. Finally, cut all foreign aid and handouts to the ME. We throw away billions literally every single week in Afghanistan and Iraq. That must stop.

    Doing these things will make public money go further!

  • Fitz Murray, UT
    June 11, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    The problem with government spending is the apathy of the citizens. When the citizens decide that their tax dollars can be better spent and make their voices heard, the spending will be reigned in. But a super majority of the people are clueless as to where there taxes really go.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    June 11, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    @Ultra Bob & Mike Richards - While I agree with you both on most points, it is also the government's obligation to ensure that the local economy grows beyond what taxes pay for. The best ways to do that are through promoting tourism and attracting new businesses. The city/state can only attract so many people promoting our outdoor recreation, so they need to find ways to reach those who are interested in other activities, such as art.

    Mike's assertion that "Poor people will never be able to afford to go to the symphony or the opera or to watch a live play," is a little unfair to the city and those organizations that actually host numerous events that are affordable to those on even the tightest of budgets (not to mention the work they do with local schools.) Furthermore, all city residents, even those that could easily afford to attend these activities that simply choose not to, benefit from the revenues these venues generate.

    Don't misunderstand me, the government needs to do a better job managing its funds. But it's also the government's job to promote itself which also benefits the businesses and residents it serves.

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    I agree with the idea of postponing some grand projects for a while. In reality, I think that the city needs to expend a great deal more effort in publicizing the current sorry state of the infrastructure of the city and explain what needs to be done, and what it will cost to remedy it. For example as expressed in the article, explain how many miles of road need to maintained and the schedule for renewal of roads and utilities. Then as the budgets are formed the basics are addressed first and foremost. Then the pet projects for the elite members of our society can be addressed.

    I agree that property taxes need to be done away with. If a man has a tax on his "castle" however humble, it is not truly his property, it is always in jeopardy of seizure by the government.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 11, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    Taxes - and more specifically, lower taxes - are always on the forefront of conservative thought.

    Connecting some dots here, what if the Republican House authorized the NSA to "commercialize" the PRISM system so that corporations can comb through the data to discover potential customers?

    Corporations benefit, we can lower the deficit by selling data to the private sector, citizens get more finely targeted marketing information.

    This sounds like a bad idea to me, but I wonder how attractive this idea would be to conservatives?

    After all, it could lower taxes, and close the deficit at the same time.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    Yea Mike Richards.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    “it should be found somewhere other that the taxpayer’s wallet”, NOT.

    The costs of government should be paid by the people governed.

    The best way to reduce the cost of government would be to reduce the governments it has to go through and the nature of the destination. People should pay taxes for the things needed or desired by the general public and not the entertainment and favoritism of specials groups.

  • 2 bit Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    Why make money go further... when we can just take more?

    Citizens must stand up and refuse to approve more taxes UNTIL government has worked hard and delivered on it's previous promises and gotten as efficient as possible first.

  • Jacob_Z Brigham City, UT
    June 11, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    All taxes on residential property should be abolished, so that homeowners actually own their homes.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    June 11, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    Many cities are commercial hubs where most folks working there live outside the city limits in separately incorporated suburbs. The cities subsequently charge an occupational tax which hits anyone working in the city. This helps protect what is often a shrinking base of taxpayers within the city's limits.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    June 11, 2013 7:32 a.m.

    I have to ask, what are the tax rates on the businesses, especially the bigger ones. It seems like many cities give these big businesses huge tax breaks, sometimes requiring they don't pay any taxes for years, while the burden is passed to the residents. I understand the argument of lower taxes on these businesses to attract them to the city, but there has to be balance. If they want business we have to have roads that will bring customers and sewage, an electrical grid and so on. They might want an educated populace or good schools to attract employees etc. These things can't be ignored but I am doubtful that many businesses are paying their fair share as compared to individual families.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    June 11, 2013 7:13 a.m.

    We always need to remember that government is in place to handle duties that the people cannot handle directly. The Federal Goverment's main duty is to protect the States from enemies and to see that States treat each other fairly. The State, County and City each have more local duties, to build the infrastruce within the State, the County and the City so that the people can efficiently perform their personal duties. Each level of government has a police force. No level of government should have an acting company or an opera company or a dance company. The people are fully capable of paying for those "services".

    To me, that is the problem with government. The elected officials "buy" votes by doing something for the wealthy so that the wealthy will donate money to a campaign. Poor people will never be able to afford to go to the symphony or the opera or to watch a live play. They use their money to pay for their families' basic needs. Taxing them for the "arts" is unfair and unethical.

    Fix the roads, not the symphony or the zoo.