Shurtleff's and Swallow's situations don't look rosy.Recordings are some serious proof....
I know it. I Live it. I Love it.According to past issues of the DN,
the current governor knew of a pending investigation focusing upon Swallow prior
to the Nov 12 election but yet thought it unnecessary to inform the electorate.
Did you vote for Governor Herbert?
"O' What a Tangled web we weave..."Money and Politics...you
would be surprised what you see from normally honest men when power and money
come into play.
It's time for an investigation to find out the truth. Allegations made to
a newspaper reporter are nothing but that -- unproven allegations. I myself
never liked Shurtleff because he seemed to think that his chief job was to
decide which laws to enforce rather than to enforce all laws.
amazing that this whole affair continues to drag on and for how much money? In
the meantime, the Clintons got away with Whitewater, the murder of Vince Foster,
and the media has stopped altogether from doing any further investigative
journalism. (Oh, sorry, that's an oxymoron, there is not such thing as
investigative journalism today. It has become the Chicago-style dirt finding
used by obama and his cronies.
A convicted felon Jenson and a soon to be convicted felon Johnson singing like
canaries. In a court of law, these two knuckleheads will have little
credibility, if any.
What is apparent is that Utah has no true Ethic Rules. Utah politicians can have
a "conflict of interest" and as long as they report it; no harm no foul.
Swallow and Republicans have tried to have meeting in a home outside the Public
View! Something is seriously wrong in Utah. What was the plan? A secret plan to
have Swallow step done before he points fingers at them? A way to keep
Utah's corruption a secret? Oh wait! Our Utah Politicians could not be
doing anything wrong. They were elected to represent us! Changes need to happen
and fast in Utah. Legislature's owning property near the prison so they can
score on a prison move along with this is a fiasco. "Something is rotten in
Denmark!" Oops I mean Utah!
Too many residents of the state of Utah are uninformed and, for the most part,
party elites pick the candidates. An aberration was Mike Lee defeating Bob
Bennett, which in turn forced Hatch to spend $6M to defeat Dan Liljenquist in
the primary.These same party elites are trying to dismantle the caucus
system in order to eliminate the voices of the informed and let the low
information voter rubber stamp the choices of the party machinesA few
people were aware that Swallow was a Scumbag, but most voters went to the polls
and cast there vote for the party endorsed candidate and consequently got what
What are former and current AGs having a relationship with a criminal for
anyway? MAD, Jay Leno, and Jimmy Fallon couldn't come up with
better material. Why do we here in Utah continue to put up with this nonsense?
Is that R next to their names really so important?
As a state delegate I met with Swallow at his meet and greet. My impression was
he typified a lobbyist or used car salesman. I voted for his opponent at that
time. The problem appeared that most delegates responded to Shurleff's
support of Swallow rather than their own investigations.I wonder how
someone (lawyer) that was predominantly a lobbyist, fund raiser, etc. was
qualified to become a"chief" assistant to the AG shortly after their
visit to Calif. The Swallow campaign made many references to issues that
suggested that Swallow was the force behind the regulation (had written it),
such as in the DOMA issue. The reality was that the legislature passed the bill
and that in about an 80 page decision the judge made a 1 paragraph reference
that Utah had standing to be involved. Swallow used this as method to improve
his exposure to the voter, probably at tax payer expense because he could
justify a trip to Washington when the case was held last year.Swallow also claimed to be responsible for money from banks on the mortgage
issue. Did he personally have that much to do with this, or because of minimum
involvement could claim responsibility?
"What kind of person smiles for their mug shot?"People like
Marc Jenson. If you knew him you would understand.
What kind of person smiles for their mug shot?
Here is a little verse I learned in elementary school long ago:"Oh what a tangled web we weave When first we practice to
deceive."All three of these "spiders" are getting more
and more tangled in the webs of deceit they have spun with their flat out lies,
white lies, lack of ethics, and self-centered motives. Eventually the truth
will come out. It is time to hold all individuals involved in under-the-table,
backhanded politics accountable for their deceitful practices.
Here is a novel idea, how about Shutleff and Swallow NOT have a COMPLICATED
relationship with a convicted criminal at all. These two want us to honestly
believe they stated at this guy's resort on accident? Of all places to
take a vacation they just happened to end up ther
CHS 85,I won't get into this anymore than this...I
didn't say he didn't get my vote in the last election. I stated that
in the last election 90% of my votes were republican. My only real point was
that Utah Republicans are often generalized and I am a clear example of why such
hasty generalizations are logical fallacious and cannot stand up to reason.
Grand jury time.
Meanwhile, The repeated close associations between Barack Obama and convicted
violent felon Bill "some guy in my neighborhood" Ayers are given a pass
by nearly all in the mainstream media. Not to mention Blagoyovich and all the
other cast of tawdry players in the cesspool of Chicago politics.Such are the ethical standards of the "journalists" of the modern
era.If and when any actual criminal acts are alleged, charged, and
proven, I will condemn Swallow, but until then this smacks of character
assassination by a bunch of politicos.
Utah is a pretty small state politically. Those who sit above the salt and see
themselves as the elite know and interact enough that others knew of the trips
and sleaze but said nothing, looked the other way, or maybe asked for the names
of the big donors so they could contact them.The silence from both
sides is deafening as it appears this is the way both major parties raise money
and peddle influence. Some day the wheeling and dealing surrounding
the move of the state prison from the present site to some other site will come
out and we'll see other well dressed, well groomed men and maybe women
trying to explain themselves. I am sure the grand-kids are proud. It's
all about family you know.
@I know it. I Live it. I Love it."And I did NOT vote for Mark
Shurtleff."Since Mark Shurtleff wasn't on the ballot, why
was it necessary to point this out?
"We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of
almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they
will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion". 121:39
Most Truthful and Patriotic,1- 90% of my votes in the last election
were Republican.2- What I believe in religiously,, politically,
philosophically, or in any other form of moral principle... is best represented
in the conservative political base (though barely and in many cases not at
all).3- I refuse to vote party line or support someone I don't
know, don't agree with enough, or don't trust to govern honestly.4- I study everyone, including each judge, on the ballot very carefully.
I study their rulings, bills, and activities. I also look at the choices they
made that people found most critical. I do what any responsible, even
respectable voter should. I research then vote honestly.SO...I just wanted to say that in most ways you could label me a conservative
republican (though I wouldn't). I may be part of a crowd due to being 90%
similar to them, but my goal is to follow God, not the crowd. I'm just
saying I'm part of that typical Utah crowd you referred to and I do in fact
have a spine. ;)And I did NOT vote for Mark Shurtleff.
Wow. Just reading this jumbled mess of corruption gives me a stomach and
headache. What were Swallow and Shurtluff thinking? Both of these guys seem to
have become corrupted at the core. It is definitely time for Swallow to resign
or be impeached. This is a sad commentary on Utah Politics.
It looks like we either believe a convicted felon or the past and current
Attorneys General.Sadly, I am inclined to believe the convicted felon.Most Truthful and Patriotic has it right. As long as we keep Utah an
overwhelmingly one party state and keep returning to office people with
questionable abilities and ethics we will keep getting the Shurtleffs and
City Weekly did a detailed expose on this nearly a month ago? Where has the
.....and yet, with all the KNOWN issues with Shurtleff in 2008, Utah re-elected
him to a third term.Utah voters: as long as we citizens (only
party "activists") select the candidates, and as long as YOU keep voting
for that one pa(R)ty, Utah will continue to elect the shoddy and
obstructionists.How many of you have the spines to stand up to
Utah's status quo?
It is time for Swallow and Shurtleff to be prosecuted.
Why do I have such a slimy feeling when I read about **any** of these people?
Glad that the d news has done a very informative article on this. It is a messy
and embarrassing subject for Utah. But now it is apparent that the problem has
to be taken care of, sooner rather than later. I don't think it looks well
for us to just wait around hoping the FBI or the feds take care of it. Its our
problem we need to take care of it in house.
Crooks....each and everyone of them. What happened to the hard working, honest
politician. Opps.....it is no longer the 1700s.....oh well. One would wish that
folks had basic decency but not in today's world. It is a shame they
can't be honest and save us all a lot of money and effort.
Still missing the story. Jenson was a fraud and went to prison to pay for his
crimes. where is the wrong doing on Swallow and Shurtleff's part? Perhaps
its too confusing to me.The perp is doing the time since he ripped
people off. Good!