Obama's national security adviser to resign; Susan Rice to be replacement

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  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    June 6, 2013 4:24 p.m.


    If you don’t think the Administration lied, why is there a filmmaker still in jail?

    The talking points were changed 12 times from the original CIA document.

    Victoria Nuland in the State Department didn't want to include information about prior warnings and security requests because it "could be abused" by members of Congress "to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned …,"

    CIA-head Petraeus wrote, "Frankly, I’d just as soon not use this"

    However, Susan Rice is the questionable person here. If, in fact, she didn’t know that those talking points were all lies (as it was never about a video) then the President used her as a tool. We know he again repeated the untruthful video story two weeks later at the UN.

    How can someone be used as a tool in such an egregious manner and then accept another position in the same person’s administration? She obviously has no problem lying to the American people, whether she did it knowingly at the time or not.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    June 5, 2013 7:23 p.m.

    Rice' new appintment comes as no suprise - rather a shock!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 5, 2013 5:29 p.m.

    This country has no concept of what an honest government with character is. Low expectations lead to a seventeen trillion dollar debt.

    Are these 550 leaders in Washington the best we can get?

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    June 5, 2013 3:22 p.m.


    What we don't have is the answer to many questions such as, why did the Administration not try to send help when this attack was going on for hours. Why did they, stick to the talking point about claiming it was not a terriorist attack but a response to an anti Muslim video. That story went on at the UN by Obama, Hillary on a TV apology in the Middle-East, and Obama again on the View and Letterman, not to mention the numerous statements by Carney to the WH press corps. We are not yet sure where the "talking points" that Rice had came from, even though you seem sure they were CIA. We don't know where Obama was for about 12 hours during the attack, and what he was doing, before he flew out to a Las Vegas fundraiser, where, he once again said the attack was inspired by a film on the net. Why was Ambassador Stevens sent to Benghazi without usual staff and security support? What was his mission? There are plenty of unanswered questions here. I'll bet if this was Bushs' mess, you'd want answers too.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 5, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    George Bush routinely tweeked the political nose of Democrats.

    No Problem.

    President Obama tweeks the political nose of Republicans.

    Big Problem.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    June 5, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    What did Rice say that was not truthful?

    She represented what the CIA talking points said at the time.

    Testifying at a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Matt Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center in response to questioning from Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-CT) about the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

    "I would say yes, they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy,"

    "The U.S. government just isn't sure yet whether the terrorist attack was pre-planned or whether it was an example of terrorists taking advantage of protests against an anti-Islam film."

    "It appears that individuals who were certainly well-armed seized on the opportunity presented as the events unfolded that evening and into the morning hours of September 12th. We do know that a number of militants in the area, as I mentioned, are well-armed and maintain those arms. What we don't have at this point is specific intelligence that there was a significant advanced planning or coordination for this attack," he said.
    The Cable, Foreign Policy, 9/19/12]

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    June 5, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    Trust? Integrity? Protecting our interests? Quid pro Quo? Do as I am doing? She could have taken Carney's place as she proved she could serve the President in all things on all networks.

  • codger Southwest Utah, UT
    June 5, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    Well, at least the President is consistent. If he ever made a sane choice for a cabinet member or a czar, I missed it. Inept, tax cheating ideologues are his norm.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    June 5, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    Re: atl134

    You say, someone should not be unfit for the job because of one instance of reporting something that turned out to be incorrect. Rice was not a reporter, but a government official, who probably knew soon after her weekend round of shows that what she said was wrong. She has made no effort to correct the record and it is obvious that Obama is giving her the new position now in order to keep her from going out and writing her book. He is now in the "run out the clock" mode for his Presidency. Sad for a guy that brought so much hope to so many. So many thought Obama was something special. He isn't, he's a typical mediocore politican.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    June 5, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    and the circling of the wagons continues. This is a sign to all those rogue irs agents that the boss will protect and promote you if you do his bidding and keep your mouth shut!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 5, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    We will make our government honest, accountable, and transparent. We will not with hold information, and transparency will be the rule of law. Barack Obama-2009

    Rice was not truthful concerning Benghazi, and now becomes National Security Adviser? There's little transparency, and honesty on anything.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    June 5, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Why am I not surprised by this? The American people should be up in arms about this. This is a reflection of where the current adminstration is going and taking down our country with it. Based on previous experience with her, why would you want her as an advisor when she reads from the que cards so perfectly? The American people see right through this one.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    "If you watched Kirsten Gillebrand yesterday take on the entire military establishment with Claire McCaskill, you will know definitely that "something is up"."

    If you paid attention to what they were saying instead of defaulting to bashing women you would know they've been railing against the fact that sexual assaults in the military are way up, to an estimated 26k a year while only around 1% of those ever led to conviction.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    "Both parties should come out against this, unless the lives lost in Benghazi don't mean anything to you."

    I really do not understand why someone is unfit for their job because of one instance of reporting something that turned out to be incorrect. Seems to me you only care about lives lost in Benghazi as far as you can exploit them for political gain.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    June 5, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    @ one old man and Happy Valley Heretic:

    How fitting. A self proclaimed old man and a heretic lecturing the rest of us, while continuing to follow the ostrich approach by keeping their heads in the sand to avoid dealing with the real world.

    Rice is what she is, and her record is what it is. So far, her track record isn't flattering by any standard. To appoint someone who has recently been so controversial to such a high level position is not a smart political move. It only creates more controversy to an administration that is becoming more exposed on a weekly basis.

    There are plenty of other well qualified candidates, who are not controversial, whom Obama could've appointed and thus began restoring some confidence to his administration. But he chose not to. Not totally unexpected, since he can't run for office again. By any objective measurements, this administration is far from what was promised during the presidential campaigns. Anyone without their heads in the sand could readily see so.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    June 5, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Susan Rice:
    "But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

    We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there."

    Benghazi talking points drafted by the CIA:
    "We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo"

    "There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations."

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    June 5, 2013 9:37 a.m.

    Happy Valley, don't worry, Obama has more and more scandle to come. And by keeping around many of the same people who are involved, like Holder and Rice, he will have lynched himself. I mean does anyone really doubt that the White House told the IRS to go after conservatives after the T-Party ruined Obamas party.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    June 5, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    This is a very smart way to put her under executive privilege so she can't be called to testify before Congress. Very clever!

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    June 5, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    Genius plan, since any person interested in the actual facts, already knows Benghazi is a nothing more than semantics and opinuendo. Fox twisted it into something only devout worshipers of hate radio still believe. These "patriots" think they are being denied the lynching they so desperately want for this president.

    This will keep the fringe talking about it, and Obama knowing there's nothing to be found isn't worried about how deep they'll dig. This will keep those who would never support this president anyway busy for a while rehashing the same thing over and over waiting for something to appear from the void.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    June 5, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Mohokat: Ouch - cheap shot.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    June 5, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    Gotta love these AP articles:

    Paragraph 1 reports the news.

    Paragraphs 2-20 apologize for Obama or any other Democrat involved in the day's bad news. Pointing the finger at Republicans is another often-used tactic.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    June 5, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    @one old man
    By your logic we should seek out those who will tell lies.
    This isn't a liberal or conservative thing. It's about integrity in high places.
    But I see your point. Someone willing to protect the narrative would be important to a politician. And she's surely done that.

    June 5, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    One thing you can say about "Ole BO" - he rewards loyalty. Actually I think it's Valerie Jarret that rewards loyalty, BO is just her parrot.

    NSA - great place for Rice - No Senate confirmation, no questions asked - just high level power to the ones that he loves.

  • IMAN Marlborough, MA
    June 5, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    Re One old man: Nothing to worry about. The conservative explosion will be ignited by simpleton view points. The most likely end result will be self detonation.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    June 5, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    Susan Rice is one of the emerging group of radical women that Obama is moving into leadership positions. If you watched Kirsten Gillebrand yesterday take on the entire military establishment with Claire McCaskill, you will know definitely that "something is up". Sadly all that John McCain could muster was that he could not advise a mother to let her daughter go into the military. Now J-Mac with your POW experience, what about those "crippled guys" coming back? Let's focus on the real reason to grill Ms. Rice on her policies. Her actions at Bengazi do not lend to a lot of confidence to support for her leadership. The real issue is just to what extent the Obama Administration is supporting radical Islam in the Middle East and by connection the same question in the United States.

  • UtahVET1 Sandy, Utah
    June 5, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    Both parties should come out against this, unless the lives lost in Benghazi don't mean anything to you.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    June 5, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    Oooooh boy is right, one exposed liar advising another suspected liar.

  • LoveLife Riverton, UT
    June 5, 2013 7:28 a.m.

    One old man-

    Based on her performance of blatant lies following the Bengahzi attacks, this should be a non-partisan, American people explosion.

    There is no doubt-carry Obama's water and be taken care of.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    June 5, 2013 7:08 a.m.

    Not sure how secure I feel now.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    June 5, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    Ooooooh Boy!

    Stand by for the conservative explosion.

  • SME Bountiful, UT
    June 5, 2013 6:55 a.m.

    I don't know about any advising, but Ms Rice can certainly be counted on the parrot whatever the president decides the official story is.

    I do take issue with the article describing the talking points as provided by the intelligence community, they appear at the point to have been provided by the State Department.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    June 5, 2013 6:43 a.m.

    Makes perfect sense. Obama can hand her a cue card with any lie and fabrication printed on it and whe will present it as fact. Another way for Obama to lie without his fingerprints being on it.