Bikes vs. cars

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  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    May 30, 2013 12:11 p.m.


    Bikes don't break traffic laws any more frequently than do cars. Are their uncourteous bikers? Of course, just like cars. Signal when changing lanes? I think we can agree that's ignored by a large portion of both groups. When was the last time you saw a bike speeding? I would say a speeding car is far more dangerous to others than a bike going through a stop sign. The only person really at risk in that behavior is themselves. Of course they should stop, but again, not all cars do either.

    I'm just saying I bike and drive, and being on both sides of the issue, I see both sides at fault. When people only drive, however, they tend to focus all their frustrations at bikers, completely ignoring that they're quite comparable to all other parties on the road.

  • Noodlekaboodle Poplar Grove, UT
    May 30, 2013 9:04 a.m.

    The biggest problem I have with bikers on the road is that they don't follow the same rules as a car. If you want to ride on the road, signal when you change lanes, don't cut in front of a huge line of cars to get to the front of the line at a stop light, those red, octagon shaped signs that say Stop, that's a rule not a suggestion. If you want to act like a car, follow the same rules a car does.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    May 29, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    A couple of thoughts:

    The bike lanes, if they are not extensively used or swept, are often covered with broken glass, nails, and other refuse and are therefore unusable if you want to keep air in your tires. Bikes have legal rights to the lanes, so you'll just have to learn to live with them.

    To everyone saying bikes shouldn't be there because of size, think of a motorcycle and a semi--what logic says they should share space? Or we could take a European approach and vastly expand bike paths specifically designed for commuters which, I guarantee you, most bikes would prefer to use and would get off the road. Here in Columbus, we have a nice bike path that runs north/south from suburban communities to downtown. Most bikes use it instead of the roads.

  • RAB Bountiful, UT
    May 28, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    I hate to once again expose certain people to reality, but people are not in good health often cannot just jump on a bike and start peddling. Bikes are not designed to accommodate exceedingly heavy people and the last thing an unhealthy person needs is to be out of breath a long distance from home.

    Also, manmade laws do not trump common sense or the laws of nature. The bigger the odds are that you might get hurt in a collision, the more you should be doing everything in your power not to get in a collision. An inconsiderate motorists might be deadly. An inconsiderate biker might get killed.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 28, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    IMO this is NOT a "VS" relationship. We are all on the same team people! It's not us VS them. So let's try to keep this in mind (both sides).

    Both sides need to be courtious and not think they own the road or assume that everyone else needs to watch out for them.

    Cars need to do the same thing when passing a cyclist as they do when passing a car (no... I don't mean pull in front of them without signaling... I mean pull left and pass with caution and courtesy).

    Cyclists... cars are going to have to pass you at some point. Try to make it as easy and save as possible.

    We can all be safe and use the same roads if we just follow these simple rules.

    This may also help...
    Drivers, when passing a cyclist, pretend it is your son/daughter on that bike.
    Cyclists... realise you never win in a collision with a car. Cooperate and give them room.
    We have problems when we try to occupy the same space at the same time. Drive defensively and give each other as much room as possible.

  • Allisdair Thornbury, Vic
    May 27, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    Three things happen as cyclist numbers increase. The health of the community improves reducing medial costs, Drivers become more aware and safety improves and cyclists are more observant of the surroundings reducing property crime.

    For those stuck in traffic, remember everyone on a bike is one less car in front of you at the lights. LOL. Why do peak hour drivers hate cyclists? ----- they move faster!

  • Strider303 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    I like to ride my bike, and drive my car. I think we can accommodate both on the road if we keep ourselves alert. Distracted driving and pedaling will result in tragedy. Future planing for bike lanes, and routes using less traveled streets and maybe some accommodation for bikes to roll through stop signs if the road is clear might be considered.

    Attitude of all concerned is important, and remember pedestrians have a place in this mix too.

    Oh, one other thing, in a tie - trying to occupy the same space at the same time - the car wins.

  • Demo Dave Holladay, UT
    May 27, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    Sarah should read the Utah Driver Handbook. Cyclists are entitled to ride to the left of the white shoulder line (yes, in your precious lane) for their own safety. They are more visible to drivers who aren't paying enough attention, which is most of them most of the time. If the side of the road is blocked or their are hazards present, a cyclist can ride in the middle of the lane for as long as is necessary.

    Because they are traffic, bikes are also entitled to turn from the left turn lane and to make other maneuvers just like cars.

    Bikes are not the problem, Sarah, they are the solution. Maybe it's time to get out of your car and pedal for a change. It would be good for you.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 27, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    Any rational hazard assessment would suggest that vehicles of such dramatically different construction and capability should not use the same space. It's like saying it's reasonable to allow horseback riding on the 15. Of course there are many good qualities about using bicycles as a means of transportation, many of which are mentioned here, but our infrastructure is almost exclusively designed for the automobile. I'm sure a real solution will be multi faceted and expensive, and I'm sure we don't currently have the resources or political will to start down that path.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    re: atl134

    As a motorist, I concur.

    There are too many on bikes with a jacked up sense of importance. Physics and common sense would infer that you yield to the bigger faster object.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    May 27, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    The world needs far more bikes and far fewer cars.
    The result of course would be less pollution, less obesity and kinder people.
    Ride a bike sometime. You'll love it.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    As a pedestrian bicyclists need to stop thinking they own the road. At least I can trust cars to stop at stop signs most of the time, with bicyclists I end up assuming they're just going to plow through without giving a darn.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 7:03 a.m.

    More people should ride bikes.

    People who are overweight and/or out of shape are more likely be cranky and hyper-critical of others. And lack of physical activity is the most obvious problem most people face. Getting the heart rate up is a great way to improve your mood and outlook on life. Getting aerobic exercise SHOULD be a daily thing.

    When I see cyclists anywhere, anytime, I yield to them. They are part of the solution to our Nation's health-care crisis and mitigators of our poor-quality and often-toxic air. Keep those hearts and legs pumping!!!