GOP lawmakers push several anti-abortion measures

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  • Kirk R Graves West Jordan, UT
    June 2, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    A few polite rebuttals to your comments above.

    "If men want fewer abortions, they need to not engage in behaviors that lead to abortions." This is true, but your comment implies that women don't bear the same responsibility.

    "Men need to be ... ready for the financial obligations associated with being a father."
    True, but if the mother is willing to accept the financial support of the father, then the father should also have a say in the life of the child (from conception). Rights and Responsibilities go hand in hand.

    "Men need to be taught not to rape"
    Duh. 1. Men are taught not to rape, only a very small percent commit this crime. 2. Pregnancies from rape are such a small percentage that they do not fall into the general discussion of abortion. 3. Nearly all Pro-Life supporters, and nearly all religions agree that in these cases abortion is a reasonable alternative.

    "if a woman needs an abortion to save her life..." Again, only most extreme anti-abortionists oppose abortion in these cases. Nearly all Pro-Life supporters, and nearly all religions agree that in these cases abortion is a reasonable alternative.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    The right to make decisions about one's own body must be preserved, as in birth control. However, when an unborn baby is involved, it is more than your own body. Saying that a fetus is not a baby until it's born implies that one day before the delivery of a healthy, nine month old child it can be aborted at will defies medical science and places one alongside Dr. Gosnell.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    May 28, 2013 8:38 a.m.


    Guess what. It isn't your money, therefore it isn't your business.


    I'm callous in that it isn't my business if someone else decides to have an abortion. It isn't my body; and imo, an enbryo isn't a human baby until it is born.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    May 28, 2013 4:40 a.m.

    Hey Ranch: if it's my money then it's my business!!

  • Bubble SLC, UT
    May 27, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    @ lost in DC: Everyone is always telling women that if they don't want to have a baby, they shouldn't be having sex. Well guess what - it is only by having sex with men that women get pregnant. Men may not be having abortions, but they are 50% of the equation that leads to the need for one.

    If men who are opposed to abortion do their part to prevent unwanted pregnancies and don't engage in sex unless both they and their partner are ready to be parents, then the need for abortion is reduced.

    Likewise, if men don't commit rape, there won't be any forced pregnancies to be aborted.

    Men are just as involved in creating the pregnancy as the woman and should be just as responsible for preventing unwanted ones.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 27, 2013 9:33 p.m.

    the BABY is everyone's business.

    Just how callous are you?

    how many men have abortions? your comment is really silly.

  • David8 RALEIGH, NC
    May 27, 2013 7:09 p.m.


    "Incubator" is a term commonly used for birds such as chickens, etc. DNA tests will prove that the innocents killed by abortion are indeed human, the child of two other humans. Where did you get the idea that if someone abuses his or her child it is no one else's business?

  • Bubble SLC, UT
    May 27, 2013 6:20 p.m.

    If men want fewer abortions, they need to not engage in behaviors that lead to abortions. Men need to be taught not to rape and not to engage in sex unless they are ready for the financial and emotional obligations associated with being a father. Further, there needs to be a law making men responsible for the costs associated with a pregnancy from the minute of conception until birth and fathers should have to help pay all costs associated with raising a child until 18 or, the case of a child with disabilities, until the child is capable of caring for themselves or no further care is needed.

    Additionally, if a woman needs an abortion to save her life or because of a severe or fatal fetal defect, men who oppose abortion should be willing to put their lives on the line also, or, at the very least, be willing to pay a bounty for the life of the woman should she die from the inability to receive a life saving abortion and pay for all medical care needed to prolong the life of the fetus.

    If you are opposed to abortion, be willing to deal with the results.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    May 27, 2013 6:03 p.m.


    That's right. First, they're not "innocent humans", yet. It isn't your business if it isn't your body being used as an incubator.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 26, 2013 10:37 p.m.


    So the murder of innocent humans are none of anyone's business?

    So why are tax payers made to fund this? Can't complain on the money taken from us? Nice guy!

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    May 26, 2013 6:34 p.m.


    then why do progressive want control soda size, and salt, school bake sales, school vending machines, and other dietary and health measures?

    Why does the left want force people to wear seat belts and protective gear for bicyclist?

    Why did progressive want to control alcohol during prohibition?

    Why does the left make healthcare their business?

    I could go on but your idiom is just not true.

    Oh...and when your pregnant it isn't just your body.

    In places in the news, abortion practice were being performed on living babies.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    May 26, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    If it isn't your body, it isn't your business.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 26, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    The Ohio man who kidnapped three girls, will also be charged for the murder of an unborn baby, and rightfully so.

    No matter how it's spun, killing a partially born, or unborn baby is murder.

  • Luke Nelson West Valley City, UT
    May 26, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    If women don't want to have children they shouldn't engage in acts that cause pregnancy.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    May 26, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    If someone wants to destroy an unborn baby, that person should not expect those of us who respect life to pay for it either directly or indirectly. We pool our money to share the expense of the unexpected major medical (and for even the routine doctor visits where the co-pay is low or non-existant), but those expenses are for health problems. Pregnancy is not a "health problem" except in the extremely rare instance where something is wrong and the mother's life will end if the pregnancy continues.

    Morality requires that we respect life. Morality requires that we give the right to life to a conceived baby. Morality requires that we speak for that baby even when others will not.

    Ban the use of all insurance money from paying for all elective abortions and from contraceptives of any kind. Let those who want those services and medications pay for them. There are sufficient low-priced clinics and medications available that those who invite children into the world should be expected to pay for their own birth control or abortions.