Bubble,A few polite rebuttals to your comments above."If
men want fewer abortions, they need to not engage in behaviors that lead to
abortions." This is true, but your comment implies that women don't
bear the same responsibility."Men need to be ... ready for the
financial obligations associated with being a father." True, but if
the mother is willing to accept the financial support of the father, then the
father should also have a say in the life of the child (from conception). Rights
and Responsibilities go hand in hand."Men need to be taught not
to rape" Duh. 1. Men are taught not to rape, only a very small
percent commit this crime. 2. Pregnancies from rape are such a small percentage
that they do not fall into the general discussion of abortion. 3. Nearly all
Pro-Life supporters, and nearly all religions agree that in these cases abortion
is a reasonable alternative."if a woman needs an abortion to
save her life..." Again, only most extreme anti-abortionists oppose abortion
in these cases. Nearly all Pro-Life supporters, and nearly all religions agree
that in these cases abortion is a reasonable alternative.
The right to make decisions about one's own body must be preserved, as in
birth control. However, when an unborn baby is involved, it is more than your
own body. Saying that a fetus is not a baby until it's born implies that
one day before the delivery of a healthy, nine month old child it can be aborted
at will defies medical science and places one alongside Dr. Gosnell.
@Rikitikitavi;Guess what. It isn't your money, therefore it
isn't your business.@DC;I'm callous in that it
isn't my business if someone else decides to have an abortion. It
isn't my body; and imo, an enbryo isn't a human baby until it is born.
Hey Ranch: if it's my money then it's my business!!
@ lost in DC: Everyone is always telling women that if they don't want to
have a baby, they shouldn't be having sex. Well guess what - it is only by
having sex with men that women get pregnant. Men may not be having abortions,
but they are 50% of the equation that leads to the need for one. If
men who are opposed to abortion do their part to prevent unwanted pregnancies
and don't engage in sex unless both they and their partner are ready to be
parents, then the need for abortion is reduced. Likewise, if men
don't commit rape, there won't be any forced pregnancies to be
aborted. Men are just as involved in creating the pregnancy as the
woman and should be just as responsible for preventing unwanted ones.
Ranch,the BABY is everyone's business.Just how callous
are you?Bubble,how many men have abortions? your comment is
@Ranch:"Incubator" is a term commonly used for birds such as
chickens, etc. DNA tests will prove that the innocents killed by abortion are
indeed human, the child of two other humans. Where did you get the idea that if
someone abuses his or her child it is no one else's business?
If men want fewer abortions, they need to not engage in behaviors that lead to
abortions. Men need to be taught not to rape and not to engage in sex unless
they are ready for the financial and emotional obligations associated with being
a father. Further, there needs to be a law making men responsible for the costs
associated with a pregnancy from the minute of conception until birth and
fathers should have to help pay all costs associated with raising a child until
18 or, the case of a child with disabilities, until the child is capable of
caring for themselves or no further care is needed.Additionally, if
a woman needs an abortion to save her life or because of a severe or fatal fetal
defect, men who oppose abortion should be willing to put their lives on the line
also, or, at the very least, be willing to pay a bounty for the life of the
woman should she die from the inability to receive a life saving abortion and
pay for all medical care needed to prolong the life of the fetus.If
you are opposed to abortion, be willing to deal with the results.
@worf;That's right. First, they're not "innocent
humans", yet. It isn't your business if it isn't your body being
used as an incubator.
Ranch:So the murder of innocent humans are none of anyone's
business?So why are tax payers made to fund this? Can't
complain on the money taken from us? Nice guy!
Ranch,then why do progressive want control soda size, and salt,
school bake sales, school vending machines, and other dietary and health
measures?Why does the left want force people to wear seat belts and
protective gear for bicyclist?Why did progressive want to control
alcohol during prohibition?Why does the left make healthcare their
business?I could go on but your idiom is just not true.Oh...and when your pregnant it isn't just your body.In places
in the news, abortion practice were being performed on living babies.
If it isn't your body, it isn't your business.
The Ohio man who kidnapped three girls, will also be charged for the murder of
an unborn baby, and rightfully so.No matter how it's spun,
killing a partially born, or unborn baby is murder.
If women don't want to have children they shouldn't engage in acts
that cause pregnancy.
If someone wants to destroy an unborn baby, that person should not expect those
of us who respect life to pay for it either directly or indirectly. We pool our
money to share the expense of the unexpected major medical (and for even the
routine doctor visits where the co-pay is low or non-existant), but those
expenses are for health problems. Pregnancy is not a "health problem"
except in the extremely rare instance where something is wrong and the
mother's life will end if the pregnancy continues. Morality
requires that we respect life. Morality requires that we give the right to life
to a conceived baby. Morality requires that we speak for that baby even when
others will not.Ban the use of all insurance money from paying for
all elective abortions and from contraceptives of any kind. Let those who want
those services and medications pay for them. There are sufficient low-priced
clinics and medications available that those who invite children into the world
should be expected to pay for their own birth control or abortions.