Entitlement battle

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 27, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    the premise that just because you exist equates into you deserving a certain amount of this earth's wealth is a load of liberal hooey.

    Those who take risks and create wealth deserve it.

    Those who sit back and expect others to take care of them deserve no more than what they get.

    Those who slide by with the minimum amount of effort also deserve no more than they get.

    The gap between rich and poor has expanded even more under BO, so clearly his handling of society's agent has undermined the working class and further divided the classes. but then class warfare, and lies and deceit, were his main re-election tools.

    Ultra Bob,
    you do not use an apostrophe for the possessive of "it". What you have done is contracted "it is"

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 26, 2013 4:29 p.m.

    Ultra Bob

    Mike Richards.

    Who creates the opportunity for a business operation?

    Who creates the need for a business operation?

    Who provides the customers for a business operation?

    Who provides the workers for a business operation?

    Who specifies the quantity, quality and the manner of creation of the product?

    Who provides the infrastructure needed for the business operation?

    Who provides the protection from other businesses for the business operation?

    Who provides the rules and regulations for the business operation?

    Who pays for all the costs, taxes and profits?

    The answer to all of the above is Society and it’s agent called government.

    Who provides the money to build, run and create the product?

    Who gets all the profit?

    The answer to these questions is the Investor, who loans the business operation some of his surplus money.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    RE: Mike Richards: " Who generates jobs? " Answer: in the present setup the private sector and all levels of government, particularly the Federal Government. You'll notice I'm sure how paniced local politicos get over the possible (though remote) closing of HAFB. The conservatives beocme Keynesians like magic.

  • ronnie sandy, utah
    May 26, 2013 2:58 p.m.

    t@Mike Richards

    Your point about turning our country into a third world country is interesting. In fact because of income disparity our country has more in common with countries like Thailand than western European countries. So we are already there for opposite of what you think.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    May 26, 2013 1:00 p.m.

    Great letter. Exceptionally well reasoned and thoughtful.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 26, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    Money speaks way louder than votes, and it never speaks for the average person.

  • Jl Sandy, UT
    May 26, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    Mike Richards, consumers generate jobs. Period. Without consumers your capitalists resort to stealing ie. as we have seen the past few years. If wealth created jobs we would have full employment today, in America but as you see, we don't. Your friends at the top have been taking money out of the economy at unprecedented rates buying politicians left and right. 100 people in the world have enough wealth to fix global hunger 4 times over and still where is the full employment? Why is the income disparity growing by leaps and bounds? Because those 100 and others like them have pillaged and that is how capitalists work. Don't confuse capitalism with free enterprise.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    May 26, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    "I find your letter short sighted. The declining income levels of the bottom class has occurred alongside massive growth of federal government power and control."

    Want to know what has grown even faster?

    The concentration of wealth at the top. The increase in CEO salaries.

    This more than anything has effected the poor and middle class decline. NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. What we are seeing is a reverse Robin Hood.

  • thinking out loud SLC, UT
    May 26, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    I find your letter short sighted. The declining income levels of the bottom class has occurred alongside massive growth of federal government power and control. The cry for state rights and decreases in federal benefits comes not because of lust for power but because it's not working! Let the states and communities keep their money close to home and make decisions how to take care of their poor, and elderly, and sick. There will be less waste and more efficiency and thus more humanity.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    May 26, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Who generates jobs? Who builds the businesses that hire you and me? Who provides the services that you and I need?

    Why not take away all that money? Why not shut down all the businesses that make a profit so that you can transfer all that wealth from them to you?

    How long would it take to turn this great nation into a 3rd world nation if those who know how to provide goods and services are eliminated? This nation would become a 3rd world nation overnight.

    Gripe and moan about the wealthy, but until YOU are willing to take the necessary risks to open a business, to hire employees, to hope that your ideas are good enough that others would pay good money to buy from you, until then, you have nothing to say.

    Reading surveys and statistics is a poor excuse. Soldiers on the front line will tell you that being in the action is a lot different than reading about it in the newspaper.

    If you envy the wealthy, then do what they have done. Risk your money. Most businesses DON'T succeed. Most risked money is lost.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    May 26, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    Great letter dead on.

    Now be prepared to be blasted by those who are drunk on the Koch bros' sponsored am radio Kool-aid