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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    the angry mob rules.

  • Sal Provo, UT
    May 26, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    Bring on the initiative to get rid of the current caucus system. I have faith in the regular voter; they can choose their own candidates.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    May 26, 2013 8:02 p.m.

    Special interest groups choose the candidate or some delegate who you select but who might choose a candidate whom you totally disagree with? I fail to see how the caucus system is an improvement over the primary.

    Besides, look at how many big business incumbents we have. I don't see any plumbers or teachers, you know, normal people serving in our government. They all seem like career politicians. Chaffetz, bishop, hatch... Stephansen, bramble, Lockhart, Dayton... All rich career politicians with the full support of big special interest groups.

  • Kris Highland, Utah
    May 26, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    In a Primary election your vote is ONLY counted AFTER special interest groups have chosen the candidates for you. And no matter who votes for or against them, the candidates will favor those who financed their elections--big money and influence--in order to be able to fund their re-election.

    Although no system is perfect, the caucus/convention system is much more open to grassroots involvement than a Primary or dual track system. At least with this system you can see who is choosing the candidates. In a Primary or dual track system, you may never know.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    May 26, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    When I vote for a candidate in a primary election I know that, win or lose, my vote counts and is counted. When I go to a caucus and vote for a delegate, I have no assurance that the delegate even knows for whom he or she will ultimately be voting, and I wll have no say at all concerning how my "vote" will ultimately be given. Since I want my vote to count, I want the caucus system to be terminated and one winner-take-all primary be instituted.

    The caucus system favors the party extreme. I want the rational voters in the party to have a chance to select a good candidate, not what we have now. I find it very sad that the ONLY Representative from Utah in the US House of Representatives who really speaks for the vast majority of Utahns is a Democrat. I want that to change, but it won't change if we're stuck with the caucus system. The caucus system has to go, and a primary election put in its place.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2013 1:01 a.m.

    One of the principles of those wanting to gut the neighborhood election caucus meeting and convention system we have in Utah, was this: " A system that provides inherent advantages to those who are incumbent, wealthy or famous is not acceptable."

    The problem is their proposals would do exactly that.

    The Caucus System in Utah is the best way to make sure grass roots movements can work over large amounts of money. It is the only way someone with $100,000 can go against someone with $2,000,000 in election funds.

    There were about 120,000 republicans in Utah that went to the neighborhood caucus elections in 2012 to elect the 4000 State Delegates. Add to those numbers the democrats and the primary elections.

    The 60% threshold to avoid a primary works, allowing a shot of a challenger to eliminate an incumbent and yet requires a challenger to be a strong candidate.

    Based on the state gop released stats since 2000 for state wide or congressional races, at 60%, threshold to avoid a primary, 1/2 of contested races went to primary. If at 2/3, 67% of contested races go to a primary.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2013 12:59 a.m.

    When people realize this "Count My Vote initiative will give them less of a chance to participate but give media and power brokers more power, they will not sign any initiative. This is a power grab by Lobbyists, and those that want to run for office but don't believe they can win if vetted by average citizens asking one on one questions.

    Perhaps you should realize that Utah was one of the early states to get rid of the Caucus System. We didn't like the results when we did and voter turnout went down. It appears we changed it to get a governor that wouldn't have won otherwise. It took less than 10 years for everyone to want the Caucus and Convention System or Mass Meetings back.
    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

    Who are we going to change our system for this time? The people, or some powerful candidate?