White House press corps has been turned into potted plants

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2013 6:22 a.m.

    The press, under Obama, has actually done the world a favor: no rational person actually buys into the belief that the press is unbaised any longer - and knowing the truth, even disappointing truth, is a good thing

    on that note - it seems the DN has moderators in the day shift, regulating civility, and censors at night, silencing content

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    May 25, 2013 6:20 a.m.

    @luke.... being branded as a liberal in Utah is just not that hard. Unless you follow the most rigid definition of "conservative"... and only adhere to some self proclaimed truism of the original founding fathers intent... you are not a conservative but a socialist liberal to many in the great state of Utah.

    For example... in the town I live in now, to most I am a conservative. To my friends in Lehi, I am a flaming liberal. I am pro civil rights, pro school voucher, gun owning, pro national defense, in favor of leveling the tax system, but feel government should play an active role in keeping our cities, states and country economically competitive with the likes of China and India... and not through exploiting the lower class. I am all over the place politically...... as are most people.

    If you were to get an honest answer from most people on how they lean politically the correct answer should be it depends on the issue.

    Just my 2 cents worth.

  • Luke Nelson West Valley City, UT
    May 24, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    @Samuel the Liberalite When you declare in your screen name that you are liberal, you can't complain that people accuse you of being liberal.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    May 24, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Yes, with the 24 hour news cycle, news is largely presented as an entertainment venue which uses current events as the script. Much different from the days of Murrow and Cronkite. With all of the available news, we should be the most and best informed people on the planet, but somehow even with all the information available, we as a society seem to be less well informed. Too much distraction with other complications of life. Quite ironic.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    May 24, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    Only the potted plants can change whether they are potted plants...

  • Samuel the Liberalite Farmington, UT
    May 24, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    I get all my news from the Deseret News.

    Right-slanted I know, but I like the coverage of the LDS church.

    The sad irony is that the LDS Church leans Left-of-Center in almost every Social issue, including gay rights, poverty, Healthcare, and war --
    whilst the local politicians and LDS members are uber-far-right-wing and ignore most of what is said over the pulpit.
    [Which is why I make the posts I do these threads...and come across as a "liberal-lefty"]

    Can you say "rejecting the words of the prophets"?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    I agree with your observation. I usually tune into the national news in the morning to see what's going on. I've noticed they cover news for the first 15 minutes, but after the first break... all you get is news about celebrities, hollywood, fashion, etc (nothing of substance). I hit the road after the first segment.

    It's a shame that with everythign that's going on in the World (and especially with what's going on with our government in Washington DC)... that they can only find 15 minutes of news to report... and then have to go to hollywood news. It's sad.

    The networks can't find more than 15 minutes that's news worthy. The Cable channels are so full of bias they aren't worth watching. It's getting difficult to stay informed without being brain washed by Cable News or dummed down by Network News.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    May 24, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    the press today, for the most part, is NOT a free press at all or a watch dog press as they are intended to be. Today you have so-called news organizations that are in reality nothing more than propaganda organizations which promote, serve and provide cover for their candidate ... it all depends on the organization and what their ideology is. So people are NOT getting anything close to the 'real story' but instead are getting nothing more than a political slant which is mostly a mixture of half truths and out right lies.

    CNN - probably 85% liberal slant
    ABC-CBS - probably the same as CNN
    NBC - probably 98% liberal slant
    FOX - probably 60% conservative slant and therefore the most balanced of all. I suspect this is why FOX has the highest ratings by far. Remember that Hannity and OReily are commentators and NOT news men...they have their own political slant. We are talking about the news here and not commentators.

    **MSNBC is not a news organization. 100% far left propaganda.

    As can be seen - Obama has a pretty cotton candy ride from the press other than FOX.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    May 24, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    A more fair way would be to draw straws or use some other lottery system so that all have an equal chance to be called on to ask questions, and not just the chosen few as determined by White house lackeys.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    May 24, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    I agree with Tolstoy that a lot of this is because we are no longer into in depth reporting, but who is going to produce that sound bite teaser for the next hour on 24 hours "news". The Jerry Springer effect on news has been that we don't want real answer or thoughtful debate - but rather have the "did you hear that" moment/

    The other piece is that it used to be print media that did the in depth reporting - multiple pages on a subject. But print is suffering with massive layoffs and with the wire services contributing most of the content you see. And when it is "fresh"... it is usually just a young reporter reiterating what was said in another piece - the DN does this a lot. Saves money, but depth is lost.

    And I am not sure it is the media's fault. News has just become another for of reality tv - a band filler for sports. That is why I end up reading a dozen or so periodicals a day... because it seems to be the only way you can get more than a column or twos worth of content.

  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    May 24, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    So which is it?

    People blame the media for not being tough enough, yet when they attack their 'preferred' party they're being too 'political' and 'harsh'...

    So which is it?

    Tolsty: I agree it's a 'rat race' for gossip oriented stories that produce ratings. Most reporters are interested in the advancement of their careers, not the advancement of truth.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 24, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    To me it seems like reporters run back and forth between the democrat press room to the GOP press room looking for the most explosive sound bites trying to gain readership/viewership not report.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    I've noticed more lately that all 3 networks cover the exact same stories, in the exact same order, exact same vidio_clips, etc.

    I flip channels a lot and I've noticed at 10:00 they are all reporting the exact same storys, in the exact same order, at the same time. So I'm getting the same story no matter which channel I'm on. Kinda weird. Like everybody's getting the same story, no matter what news they watch (like Pravda).

    Sounds spooky, but I think it's just coincidence. I'm sure they all prioritize the news and they all end up prioritizing them in the same order.

    Bottom line... it doesn't matter a bit which news you watch now days. You will get the exact same thing no matter which one you watch.

    That's why I read the opinions. It's the only thing not cookie_cutter arranged so we all get fed the same thing. The only content not arranged to lead us and assure we all come to pre-determined conclusions that fit the approved narrative.

    Used to be Networks dared to rock the boat from time to time.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    May 24, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    exploding cigar? more like another GOP dud.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2013 10:16 a.m.

    Our press corps makes the Stepford wives look independent by comparison.

  • CLM Draper, UT
    May 24, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    News used to be about information, about fostering the common good. Information which may give viewers or readers uncomfortable and unpleasant truths. Over the past decade, however, corporate monopoly of the media has rendered traditional news irrelevant. In matters of war and foreign policy, news has become ineffectual and in some cases, propagandistic.

    Reporters now walk in lockstep, relying on government briefings and "official" statements from the White House instead of doing their own extensive independent investigations. They toe the line or lose their jobs.

    Presently, whether you're getting your information about current political events from a major news outlet on the internet or by hard copy, you're likely to find that more opinion than fact is being communicated and that any debates in the press have withered to minor differences among the power elite. In large part, what passes for "news" is whatever plays on public emotion while important issues are sidestepped.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    The President needs to answer questions from a group that isn't totally on his side from time to time. See if he can dodge a shoe thrown his way. Keeps him on his toes (instead of assuming he's got the press in his pocket and he can do antyhing he wants and they won't ask tough questions or express any displeasure).

    The anti-war heckler at yesterday's news conference was kinda funny. After showing it on NBC news this morning, the only question or response the reporter covering the story had was, "How did she get in there"?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    May 24, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    I find this line of thought most irritating. Either people have selective memories, or just can't remember the past very well. And that kind of fits the mold here... how exciting would it be to report that things in Washington are the same as they have always been, going back over 200 years.

    There never - ever - was a day where the White House Press Corp had free reign at press conferences. They have always been orderly affairs.

    For example, in an interview in 1988 for the book "On Bended Knee" , Bejamine Bradlee, exec editor of the Washington Post said of the Reagan administration "we are known-though I don't think justifiably-as the great liberals. So, [we thought] we've got to really behave ourselves here. We've got to not be arrogant, make every effort to be informed, be mannerly, be fair. And we did this. I suspect in the process that this paper and probably a good deal of the press gave Reagan not a free ride, but they didn't use the same standards on him that they used on Carter and on Nixon."

    So the story stays the same, just the names of the actors change.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    May 24, 2013 5:46 a.m.

    So much for freedom of the press. They better keep there arms folded and stay in line if they ever want to work.