Republicans try to link IRS scandal, Obama's health care overhaul

Official in charge during targeting now runs health care office

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  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    May 22, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    I'm glad we have this latest "scandal" ... It will give Mike Lee something new to do, since he's not interested in helping Utah with our real needs. Go Mike Go!

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 19, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    Riverofsun: You are either a socialist or someone that is ignorant of what socialism is? In either case,admit that you are a socialist or start defending your reasons for why socialism is better than a capitalist system grounded in the Constitution, which neither Republicans or Democrats for many years haven't supported! There is no middle ground between socialism and capitalism. What we have today is not capitalism and we certainly don't live by the constitution and most don't have a clue about what liberty means.

  • mytymouse09 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 19, 2013 5:04 p.m.

    Oh my! Just think how history will portray the Democrat Party! Will their terms in office be remembered as ones of lack of trust from citizens, dictating what we as citizens will do (ACA for one, which we the people were opposed to), too much government control, deceit, corruption, repaying of favors by granting high positions, etc.
    To "riverofsun" -- I wouldn't be surprised if Obama's suits do cost more than $500, and his haircuts more than $100, a mere trifle compared to the costs for his and his family's unlimited vacations (yes, they may pay for their lodging, etc., but we taxpayers pay for security, the expense of the planes, etc. for each of those trips!).
    I am baffled by those of you who shrug these events off as playing politics by the Republicans. My goodness, a huge breech of trust was enacted by the IRS (strange that only Conservative groups were targeted), Americans lives were lost unnecessarily, and to have phones tapped. All huge deals to me, so of course they should be investigated.

  • Jerome from Layton Layton, UT
    May 19, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    First, look at the response of our POTUS to the question, When were you aware of the IRS abuses? "Answer", I became aware of the IG Report via the media. This is not quite the same thing as the original question.

    Next, the person in charge of the Tax Exempt division of the IRS at the time left that post but is still in the IRS. She was given a bonus and a promotion to run the section that will be enforcing the IRS participation in the ACA (Obamacare).

    If that gives you a "warm fuzzy", you may have been sleeping on a slab of dry ice. Her people will write the rules concerning the eligibility of your health plan and how you will be able to use it. If you have a "K.Street" plan (unique to Utah, so far), her people will "clarify" how it can be used.

    Remember, our President has been committed to "single payer" health providers since he was a young man and that persuasion may well influence the action of that IRS appointee. Therefore, it is reasonable to expect that a link between IRS activities and the management of Obamacare does exist.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 19, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    In a campaign speech--July 2, 2008, In Colorado,--Obama stated:

    "said that as president he would create “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military, to advance my “objectives” for America."

    Was he referring to the IRS managing health care?

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    May 19, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    Re: "There is a link, but it may only be coincidence."

    Maybe. But highly unlikely.

    And this dishonest, hyperpoliticized regime will have a hard time showing that Sarah Hall Ingraham, the manager in charge of the IRS office in charge of IRS charity enforcement -- who received more than $100,000 in performance awards during her tenure in that agency, and who now heads the IRS' office of healthcare legislation -- is not that link.

    Or that her presence in the two most politicized subagencies in the IRS is just a coincidence.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 19, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    Will the IRS become Americas version of the KGB?

    With control of health care, defense, and education, they feds don't appear to be the employee of the people. Scary!

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    May 19, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    Oh, My! Just think how history will portray the Republican Party!
    Will 2009 through 2016 remember the Republican Party as glorious legislators, portrayed as changing our nation for the better?
    Will those "famous" individuals with the $500 dollar suits and the $100 hair cuts initiate laws for health insurance for all, immigration reform, environmental issues, banking and hedge fund fraud, lobbying reform, violence issues relating to all weapons, climate change, race relations, world relations, assistance for the less fortunate, social security, medicare, education, etc.?
    Doesn't appear that will be the case.
    Stalling, changing emails, hatred, racism, lack of cooperation, will be the preface of every book written about Republicans during this time of history. Republican/Tea Party/Conservative/right wing will forever connote a sorry, unproductive, uncooperative and extremely selfish individual who was not elected to represent the US voters and citizens. These misguided legislators sought election for their own "glory" and to constantly work for their return to Washington and their State capital following the next election.
    Ah, how proud there descendants will be!

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 19, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    R-Darrell Issa is chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

    "I know approximately what's in it," Issa told Bloomberg Businessweek on Monday when asked if he knew what would be in the report. "I knew what was approximately in it when we made the allegations about a year ago. This is one of those things where it's been, in a sense, an open secret, but you don't accuse the IRS until you've had a nonpartisan, deep look. That's what the IG has done. That's why the IGs in fact exist within government, is to find this kind of waste and fraud and abuse of power."

    The Treasury inspector general for tax administration sent a letter to Rep. Darrell Issa in 7/2012 saying it would audit the agency.

    “The heads-up that I got was something that was a matter of public knowledge. It was posted on the IG’s (inspector generals) website in the fall of 2012,” Lew added. “I was not aware of any details. My deputy was not aware of any details until it became a matter of public knowledge.”

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    May 19, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    The partisan bickering between the Republican supporters and the Democratic supporters is amusing, if not tragic! How naive can one be to think that these politicians from both parties have been doing what is best for you! The only joy that I find is knowing the truth and also knowing that no matter how hard the government searches for my identity and how to control me, they can't. Politicians must be judged on whether they rule by God's laws, the Constitution, and liberty! How frustrating it must be to not be able to change that! I am the truly independent realist! Anyone that says that they vote'republican' or 'Democrat' as a habit are naive at best, and vast contributors to the problems in this country at worst. The answers are not partisan at all. God is no partisan. He doesn't bicker. He doesn't equivocate! I much prefer someone that comes right out and says they are socialists, then those who want socialism, but fraudulently, with lack of integrity, say that what they believe in is different than 'socialism.'

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 19, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    I wonder if the anti-American groups, around the world, are paying the republicans for their services, or is it being done free gratis.

    All wars are brought about by economic interests. Nations compete amongst themselves to gain or protect economic advantage. Internally people when pushed too far by economic oppression will revolt against their government. The economic war being waged by the states against our national government is the same sort of thing as our revolutionary war against the English.

    Only this time, the rebels may be providing outsiders with the means of the states own destruction.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 19, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Bereft of ideas of their own, they just throw stones.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 19, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    You just gotta love the Obama administration's idea of carrying out justice:

    "Did the IRS target conservative groups?"

    "Were you a part of it?"
    -"I don't know"

    "Was what happened legal?"
    -"Hmmm..... Was it legal? . . . It wasn't illegal.... but it was inappropriate"

    "What is your plan to keep it from happening again?"
    -"Well, one person got reassigned and the other person is in counseling"

    "Alright, you are free to go".

    So, with that according to Democrats the whole IRS issue is now completely under control. Oh, and anyone who tries to bring it up (or Benghazi) is just trying to play politics! Truth is undesirable to Democrats. It really gets in their way!