President Barack Obama declared health care law 'is here to stay'

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  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    May 12, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    Unemployment will go down as more companies will just reduce hours so they don't have to pay their share of health insurance for those they employ. Wal-Mart was already having employees at 32 hours at their wage scales. They set the tone for other employers who will just have more employees but at 26-28 hours a week at unlivable salaries. We will have socialism and the banks, insurance companies, auto manufacturers, medical care personnel working for the government. They will get rid of the military as no other country would want to come in and take over our miserable situation. Sports will become like the Hunger Games and Districts of the country will send their young men and women to the Capitol for the play until dead games to show the citizens who is in charge without representation. It doesn't take long lose what our ancestors gave us as we care more about things than people. Our representative government is to represent us but they have lost their vision and ability to do what they were hired to do. They are pointing at each other's party and saying they cannot do anything due to the other's stymying.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 12, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    Sounds like an employee of the people, and we have no say in this. Hah?

  • trustmeiknow Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    I still have no health insurance, and zero affordable options.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    May 11, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    Once again, I ask the same question of ObamaCare that I ask of Benghazi. Why did he do it? With all the obvious negatives, many of which are posted above, what did Obama think he was going to accomplish with this 2500 page bill that not one American will understand. Much like our tax code. Leviathian government thats only purpose is to serve itself. I wonder if it is now too big to ever get control of. Maybe it should be called HAL 9000 Government.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 11, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Especially with the economy turning. The more people get hired the more the program will hep everyone. No a liberal thing, its an improved country for everyone but the wacky tea party.

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    May 11, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Sadly, Obama is right, this atrocity which is destroying the best health care system in the world is here to stay. After implementation, it will simply be too entwined in the workings of the pharmaceutical, insurance, hospital, and provider systems to dismantle.

    It will not provide more treatment options or availability.
    It will not reduce costs for the country as a whole, and probably not for most individuals.
    It will reduce payments to providers, thus ensuring fewer people to provide health care.
    It will add massive bureaucratic obstacles to getting care.
    It will slow, or even halt, the development of new drugs or procedure.
    It will ration care, with "death panels" making decisions that should be between doctor and patient.

    Obamacare will be the legacy of the liberals, perhaps based on good intentions, but passed in the dark of night without Congress even able to read the massive bill before voting on it. Not a single Republican voted for it. Liberals, YOU own it, for better or worse, in sickness or health.

    We MUST try to repeal it, or as much of it as possible. Lives depend on it, as well as our economic survival.

  • frugalfly PULLMAN, WA
    May 11, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    Captain of the Titanic: "Those extra heavy marble countertops in every cabin are HERE TO STAY..."

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    May 11, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    Obamacare will collapse under its own weight, and very soon. Young people will not pay the ever increasing insurance premiums because since there are no pre-existing condition exclusions, they will just wait until and if they get sick. That will leave older people to suck the system dry with very few younger people paying in like the Ponzi scheme it is! Add to that all the employers who will dump their employee's healthcare onto the system, which by the way is already happening!

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    May 11, 2013 6:51 a.m.

    As more and more of Obamacare is implemented, rates on those people who already have insurance will continue to skyrocket until the middle to upper classes will scream for "universal healthcare".

    I think this was the plan from day one on the part of this administration.

    The only problem with "universal healthcare" as I see it is that it will remove the incentive for Drs. to be productive and efficient.

    Obamacare assumes that the most uninsured group, those people 27-40 WILL buy health insurance rather than paying the penalty.
    If they don't, all the rest of us paying "into the system" will, inevitably, pay more.

    I see those of us with the "means", having to carry more and more of the healthcare costs for those who not only can't afford healthcare, but those who REFUSE to buy it.

    The "newly insured", will NOT be paying enough into the system relative to the amount of care they will get. Especially if some choose to pay the fine, rather than buy insurance.

    When we are forced, by cost, to go to a universal healthcare system, I don't have a lot of confidence in the government running it.

    May 10, 2013 10:48 p.m.

    christoph: You are either deluded or uninformed. Conservatives were and are opposed to Obamacare. This co-opting of a major part of the economy by the government is unprecedented in my life time. We have been abused by our elected officials who are now, I hear, trying to exempt themselves from the very law they passed. This law is the biggest tax hike in decades on the middle class.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    May 10, 2013 7:46 p.m.

    The Affordable Care Act is a conservative idea: take responsibility for your own health care, and no more free riders. Sign up or pay a penalty, no more free health care. It is not perfect, and will be tweeked from time to time.

  • bigv56 Cottonwood, CA
    May 10, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    America may wake up in 2014 when they feel this disaster in their wallets. Even libs don't know what is in it. You can't not have health insurance with this law. In 2015 exorbitant penalties will kick in through the Ian's. by the way without drug makers you would die a lot sooner. Increased lifespan didn't come from America's healthy eating habits..

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    May 10, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    Barb wire -- you got it right. Unfortunately.

  • Barb Wire USA, UT
    May 10, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    As long as special interest groups in Washington (which include drug makers and health insurance companies) have so much influence on our elected government baboons, healthcare will just get more exhorbitant to a point that most Americans will choose not to have insurance. Our health care system is a bonafide train wreck that will certainly get a whole lot worse as long we Americans don't act now and reset the baboons in Washington. It's a case of the rich getting a whole lot richer off the sick and dying people of this once great nation.