Richard Davis: Guantanamo is a blot on our national character

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  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    May 9, 2013 4:10 a.m.

    "When the war on terror is over, release them."

    Can you ever see a day when we call the "war on terror" over?

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    May 8, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    "I had no answer."

    The answer is fairly simple. The detainees are not citizens.

    "It is time to close this facility."

    Agreed. It's costing billions to keep it open. But don't let detainees set foot on US soil.

    "The Bush administration did not want them to be tried through the civilian court system because it claimed it had captured them in wartime."

    Which is absolutely correct. The war was and is a war on terrorism.

    "Housing them in the United States might subject them to U.S. judicial system rules."

    True, and they would likely be found innocent and turned loose on US soil... as immigrants... receiving the Obama amnesty.

    "The Bush administration wanted the freedom to deal with them as they wished, including torturing them (an illegal act in our legal system)."

    Obama's method is to zap with drone missiles... no questions asked (as we have seen and reported in the DNews).

    "Under those rules... prisoners are eligible to be returned to their nation of origin, at least by the end of a war."

    The war on terror is not over... and won't be for decades, if ever.

  • FT1/SS Virginia Beach, VA
    May 8, 2013 7:35 p.m.

    No Trial!! They were picked up on the battlefield by the military. When the war on terror is over, release them. Wait! no country wants them, including there home country. Maybe the writer or those of you who support the writer's view will welcome them in your hometowns, so you may share your values with them? For terrorist picked up by civilian authorities such as in Boston, New York, and Detroit trial them? Yes! trial them. That's the way the system works.

    @Joe Blow "Think about the outrage in America if another country had done this to some of our people.
    America would be DEMANDING their release."
    Really? Without googling can you name the American held by the Taliban the past four years? Or the two Americans held in Iran for the past couple of years? Where's the outrage, there is no outrage. Only the family members are outraged at the State Department, and President Obama who ignores it. America sleeps.

  • Lew Scannon Provo, UT
    May 8, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    Interesting that we started a "war" on terror when a few radicals perpetrated a heinous crime. Yes, it was a crime. As was the Boston Marathon bombing. We should treat them all as criminals, not as enemy combatants. Just look what our War on Terror has created. More anti-American fanatics than we had before 9/11. Seems like we went about this all wrong from the outset. And attacking Iraq was the stupidest decision this country has made since, oh, November 26, 1963.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    May 8, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    The Constitution says "no person" shall be held in this situation, without charges, without trial, etc. Doesn't say "no citizen" -- it says "no person." As these individuals are persons, the US is plainly violating its Constitution. Why is there no outcry from our "Constitutional Conservatives" about this little slip-up?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    May 8, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    Guantanamo runs 180 degrees contray to every single ideal in the United States Constitution.

    Whether U.S. citizens or not,
    the IDEOLOGY it represents...the very "Spirit" of the Constitution is being trampled on at Guantanamo.

    It is an embarassment to everything AMERICA stands for.

  • UT Brit London, England
    May 8, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    "But waterboarding isn't torture."

    Say that to some of the former POW's held by the Japanese. I am sure they would not agree.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    May 8, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    But waterboarding isn't torture.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    May 8, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    Unconventional warfare has led to unconventional consequences such as Guantanamo. The US has had ample time to devise alternative solutions and it is past time for closure of Gitmo detention. While of interest, the reason for closure is not because the Europeans think so.

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    May 8, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    Absolutely right. Guantanamo is a disgrace to real American values.

    By the way, Richard Davis has been a great addition to the Deseret News. His column is the best in the paper.

  • Tekakaromatagi Dammam, Saudi Arabia
    May 8, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    I agree with this editorial. They have a right to a fair trial, to see the evidence against them, to be able to defend themselves. All men are created equal. We can survice terrorists trying to kill us. But we cannot survive introducing the practice that some people don't have the same rights as the rest of us.

    "Enemy combatants" is a pseudo-legal term made up so that we can sneak around legal principles based on morality. It is an unjust law.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 8, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    It is shameful.

    I thought we established our system of justice because it was the morally correct way to function. Apparently "morals" depend on one's address of origin.

    We've revealed to our enemies that we are no better than them. "Do as we say, not as we do" is our motto.

  • KDave Moab, UT
    May 8, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    JoeBlow; No countries are demanding their release because they don't want them in their country.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 8, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    Prisoners at Guantanamo who are U.S. citizens should be given a trial by jury; the others should be brought before a military tribunal. It should be done in as timely a manner as possible.

    Those prisoners following the Geneva Conventions -- including the wearing of a uniform -- should be treated according to those conventions.

    Remaining Guantanamo prisoners should be released when al-Qaeda ends its hostilities.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    May 8, 2013 4:39 a.m.

    "The rest have been there for up to 11 years with no trial, no formal accusation and no recourse to the Geneva Conventions that would allow them rights as prisoners of war."

    Think about the outrage in America if another country had done this to some of our people.
    America would be DEMANDING their release.

    What are we afraid of? Do we not have confidence in our legal systems?

    We are America. Aren't we better than that?