GOP seeks to extend overtime pay/paid time off option to the private sector

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  • killpack Sandy, UT
    May 7, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    Sounds to me like another lose/lose for workers. Here I am, not even trying to get ahead, just trying to pay my bills, and my boss won't let me work more than 40 hours. What a hindrance Washington has become to people trying to work! They really must want everyone on the dole. Shame on them, and shame on all of you who support either side. I support NO side on this lose/lose issue.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    May 7, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Lost in DC,

    I think maybe the difference is that I doubt there are many government employees working for minimum wage. Also, government regulation prevents exploitation of workers like occurs in the low levels private enterprise.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    May 7, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    @lost in DC

    "so you are still OK with the federal government doing it to their employees."

    I know this was directed to me in any fashion, but I am a hated federal employee in Utah and I detest "Comp Time In Lieu of Overtime."

    When I get called in on a Sunday night to fix a computer problem that takes four hours, I get FOUR hours of Comp Time. Comp Time is given by my agency 1 for 1. I then have one year to take those four hours off. So I get to take four hours on a Tuesday when my family is at work and school instead of valuable time on a Sunday. I would much rather have the cash at $1.5 for every $1. Also, this increased expense to my employer may make him think twice before neglecting maintenance and not dividing the workload properly.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    May 7, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    In case some of you missed it, the first few lines of the article explain why it is probably a good idea. The Federal Government does it with its workers. This plan actually sounds like it should be coming from the Democrats. They are probably resisting it because they didn't think of it first, and don't want Republicans to get credit for the idea. In the military when I mustered out, I had 60 days un-used leave. I could have either left the military 60 days early, or taken the money. There is nothing wrong with an employee having a choice on this issue. But, division in D.C. (caused by both sides equally for all you Obama, Reid, supporters) will trump good policy. We need some inspired new leadership in Washington that we did not get with the last 2 elections, as some had hoped for. Too bad. In the end Obama is just another typical politician, nothing special.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 7, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    so you are still OK with the federal government doing it to their employees.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    May 6, 2013 6:23 p.m.

    What will happen eventually is that it will change to some employees will not be paid overtime but will have to take time off instead of being paid. In federal employment comp time can take away some of the leave time that is built up with others.

    Plus and minus. The unions will help protect the workers, however that comes out. Political parties won't be able to work this out, not even with a contract with America that they represent.

  • codger Southwest Utah, UT
    May 6, 2013 5:31 p.m.

    I agree with RedShirt. Why is the Federal government sticking their nose into private business anyway? Leave them alone. Get out of the way.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    May 6, 2013 3:44 p.m.

    Lost in DC,

    Too many have a difficult time comprehending the inherit limitations of others, they feel because they have scaled Mt. Everest everyone should be able to do it. It is just not the way god made the world or the way things are. Can you spare a dime brother, if not how about a smile and a kind word.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 6, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    so what part of the plan denies the laborer his wages? In order to get the compensatory time, he HAS to get his 40 hours first. If he is struggling to put bread on the table while working FULL-TIME, maybe he needs to increase his skillset and value.

    of course, with Obamacare forcing more and more employers to push more and more employees to part-time status, this whole compensatory time off is becoming moot - it will MANDATE time off, with even less ability to put bread on the table.

    And you are still OK with the government doing it, but not private employers. Yes, punish those evil government employees!

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    May 6, 2013 2:41 p.m.

    Those who are quickest to blame others for unscrupulous motives, usually have a few of their own...

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    May 6, 2013 1:57 p.m.

    How about this for a novel approach. How about we let the businesses decide?

    If you don't like your employer's rules for overtime, get a job elsewhere.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    May 6, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    @ lost in DC
    Perhaps what some people are over looking is that most workers are laboring to put bread on the table for their families. They are not looking for free time to play golf, etc., or other luxuries that the poor can not afford.. The worker needs and deserves to be paid for his labor. But maybe management should be paid with free time so they can play more golf.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    May 6, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    This is a way for the GOP to support companies to AVOID having to pay over time at time and a Half.

    GOP all is pro-company,

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    May 6, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Sergio, Blue,

    So you are OK with government shifting the burden of labor costs to the detriment of the workers and avoiding paying higher payroll taxes, but you oppose it in the private sector.

    No, the real reason the left hates this idea is because it removes some of the labor bosses power and influence. Anything that empowers the individual worker over the union is hated by the left.

    May 6, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    Who gets to decide when the time off can be taken? Will an employee be able to extend a paid vacation by a week? Or will the employer mandate that the employee take 2 hours off every Wednesday morning for 20 weeks?

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    May 6, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    This probably won't do much. From what I'm hearing, many businesses are reducing hours from full time to part time to avoid the Obama care fees and penalties. Many employees will be lucky to still get 40 hours per week, overtime seems very unlikely.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2013 10:02 a.m.

    It all depends on how tough (and how many penalties for non-compliance)are written into the bill.

    For instance: many years ago a labor lawyer told me that in the "public" employment sector any overtime accrued is "property", therefore YOU own it and may redeem it in any way YOU choose, regardless of how the supervisors may feel.

    Don't know how accurate this is, but it makes sense that AFTER an employer allows you to work overtime, with their full knowledge, they owe you in EITHER compensation YOU desire.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    Substituting overtime pay for "Comp Time" is a nifty way to lower a businesses' employee payroll taxes because it lowers employee's total earnings if that employee regularly works overtime. If you're a large enough employer you can always schedule other workers to cover employees who are having to take a half-day off instead of having to pay someone overtime.

    Will these business then next declare that most of their employees are also in the "exempt" status and thus only give comp time on a 1:1 rate instead of the 1.5:1 rate for genuine overtime payments?

    This is the government you get when corporations have bought your government.

    May 6, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    @one vote,

    That blurry figure is John Boehner, GOP speaker of the House. Pretty important guy in that he controls all spending.

  • sergio Phoenix, AZ
    May 6, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    It seems the GOP always favors capitalist's manipulations to shift the burden of labor costs to the determent of the workers. I seems nothing less than slave labor would completely satisfy the GOP.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    May 6, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    Who is that blurry figure in the background of the picture on this article?

  • satch Highland, UT
    May 6, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    This would be great for school teachers...not so much for kids.