Freedom and the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    May 6, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    To "Kent C. DeForrest" you got it slightly wrong. You won't be free from paying higher premiums to cover the uninsured and uninsurable. You will be paying more to cover everybody.

    Have you also noticed that most communist nations claim to be democratic. I don't want to be a democratic nation, I want to remain a Republic, like the Constitution set up.

    What you, and most liberals (and many conservatives) don't realize that this bill is just a move towards fascism. The ACA gives the government more power and control over insurance companies. It will turn the health insurance industry into a socialistic conglomerate that appears to be separate companies, but, are in fact under government control and share costs between them.

    To "atl134" the right to life only means that you can't be killed without cause. It does not mean that you can set up laws to make your neighbors pay for your healthcare, food, housing, or anything else needed for life.

    To "Truthseeker" you need to look at more recent information. See "Obamacare to raise claims cost 32 percent, study shows" at CBS News.

  • UT Brit London, England
    May 6, 2013 10:03 a.m.


    I am from a UHC country and I give thanks in my prayers everyday that I am. Having spent a few years living in the States I would not want to experience your health care system ever again. Your actual health care is fine (certainly not double the price you pay though) but the insurance system is horrific.
    I explain to some of my friends here about deductibles/co-pays/in-network and they look at me with a blank expression. The US system is incredibly over bloated and inefficient. My doctors office in the States employed at least one person to sort out the insurance bills. You have 25% more admin staff compared to my own country.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    May 6, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    Obamacare could lead to lower premiums in the state of New York, according to a new study by Deloitte prepared for the New York Health Benefit Exchange. (May 2013)

    "I am told".......

    What sources do you rely on? Do your rely on a political variety of sources?

    I would recommend the Frontline series, accessible via the internet, "Sick Around the World."

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    May 5, 2013 9:23 p.m.


    A single-payer system is not communism. Every democratic society on earth except the U.S. has a single-payer system. It is socialism, but that's a far cry from communism. But we already have a socialistic health-care system. It's called insurance. It's a system in which participants pool the risk and pay a proportional amount called a premium. It's really the same principle as socialized medicine, except that socialized medicine covers everyone, not just those who work for a particular employer or belong to a particular group, and the premium is called a tax. Both systems work because few individuals can afford to pay for a catastrophic illness or accident, so they spread both the risk and the payments, and it works fairly well. We just need to extend this mechanism to all members of society, like most other countries. Until we do, we'll continue to be looked upon by other countries as stupid and barbaric.

  • David Centerville, UT
    May 5, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    I am told that single payer systems have created backlogs, long waiting periods for treatment, denials for treatment.

    Some of these comments cause me to reflect upon the voter celebrating Obama's 1st presidential victory, stating that now she wouldn't have to pay a mortgage.

    Who establishes compensation to hospitals, nurses, doctors, & other health care workers? Who sets the fees for procedures? How does government determine fees & reimbursements? What incentive exists for hard work? Must approval from government be obtained for pioneering procedures? How is research approved & funded?

    The single payer system seems very close to communism. Is that where we are headed? Is that where democrats would take us? If so, be honest about it.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    May 5, 2013 7:16 p.m.

    We could have the freedom you seek if we'd just enact a single payer health care system for all. Everyone could have health care, be free from worry and free from insurance companies and the medical establishment designed to rip them, and you, off.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 5, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    Could've sworn we as a nation sought out the inalienable right to life...

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    May 5, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    I think every one can agree there are flaws with the affordable health care act. Some people think it goes too far and others think it doesn't go far enough.

    I assume the writer does not think healthcare is a right. What does that exactly mean? Does that mean someone who gets into a car accident and is unconscious should not get treatment because they do not have insurance?

    I'm confused where we draw the line when it comes to healthcare because most people I talk to who think healthcare is not a right are in favor of saving lives. They wouldn't let somebody bleed to death or not perform cpr on a drowning victim but somehow their attitude changes when someone needs a transplant or has cancer or some other life threatening illness.

    Death is death in my opinion.

  • isrred South Jordan, UT
    May 5, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    " Individuals and families will now be required to have adequate health care coverage (meaning most will have to acquire coverage they don't need) "

    This is absolutely untrue. I am young and relatively healthy, so I have a high deductible plan that protects me from going bankrupt in case of some catastrophic event. And this plan is STILL rated 75% actuarial value when the "adequate" standard under the Affordable Care Act is 65%.

    Everyone should have at least catastrophic coverage as THAT is truly where the problem is. People aren't going bankrupt and adding stress on the system because of check ups when they get the flu, but because of serious and more catastrophic things.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    May 5, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    This letter shows a very one-sided view of freedom. I have lived in Germany, and my German friends (as do people in almost every other civilized country) feel free to go get health care anywhere they can without worrying about whether they can afford it. As an American, I thought Germans were hypochondriacs. They went to the doctor over every little sniffle. They spent weeks at spas to "recover" from their hard work lives (even though they get much more paid vacation time and more holidays than we Americans). Their system provides quality health care and caters to the whims of the culture, and yet they pay about half of what we pay for health care. So, who is more free?

    Also, if Obamacare has the desired effect, I will be free from paying higher premiums to cover all the people who can't afford insurance but who still receive health care, many of them in the most expensive form available (emergency care).

    I submit that we would be far more free if we would join the rest of the world and creating a single-payer system that covers all Americans.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    May 5, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    Question Jesse..should freedom be for sale? Freedom from curable disease, and dibilitating injury is absolutley for sale today with millions of Americans unable to afford that freedom. Should those who provide those services be allowed to make a living providing those services absolutely..but should the system be structured so that millions can't afford the freedom those services

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    May 5, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    I am looking forward to the freedom to pay for my OWN medical bills and not those of other people who either refuse to carry insurance, can't afford it, or have been denied coverage by insurance providers.

    I am looking forward to being relieved, at least in part, by the current socialistic system of health care in America that forces all of us to pay higher prices for virtually everything associated with medical care. The socialistic system that currently socializes the expenses of medical care upon the shoulders of most of us while privatizing the profits and pouring them into the pockets of big companies and their executives.

    Let's be very careful not to fall for the lies propagated by those who stand to profit even more if ACA is allowed to be overturned by legislators who have been paid to oppose it.