Immigration reform needs to happen step-by-step, not all at once

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  • RichardB Murray, UT
    April 30, 2013 9:47 p.m.

    The people don't let them in. We put up fences, and they crawl over. We could be more vigilant, but it does not excuse their law breaking, including multiple felonies.

    No one benefits, business does not pass along the cheap labor savings, it goes to them and their stock holders. The person here illegally benefits, so does the business. The taxpayers lose by providing them entitlements including over $6000 per child, per year for schooling. Not to mention how much id theft costs, and paying the person they replaced unemployment. Less than 5% work on farms, and the entire cost of labor is only 7% of a farms operating costs.

    Putting everything in one bill allows them to slide past any enforcement. The border will not be secured, just 3 areas, e-verify will not happen until it's replaced by a new system with loopholes. And no back taxes will be paid unless they already owe them.

    Do it one at a time with plenty of input, take our time, and get it right this time. America is tired of no enforcement. E-verify with high fines and loss of business license would solve 6 million problems.

  • dbslc2013 salt lake, UT
    April 30, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    We let them in, we let them work for us, we benefited from the cheap labor, we should figure out how to let them be legally here. We talk a lot about those that come here to work being in the wrong but we don't talk much about the rest of us who gladly benefit from their cheap labor as being in the wrong as well. We should own up to our mistakes as a society in allowing the number of illegals to grow to 11 million and we should deal with it. It would be less disruptive and less expensive to let those who are here register, apply and pay to stay rather than trying to deport them. If we try to effectuate reform piecemeal, the important parts will never get done and the problem of illegal immigration will persist.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    April 29, 2013 2:03 a.m.

    Our government is replacing it's own citizens? Why? What did we do wrong?

    The bill gives the dishonest business owners amnesty also. And the back taxes? Only if they already owe them. The bill does not require applicants for legal status to submit tax-specific information, such as employment history or wages earned, to either the IRS or DHS.

    Some say we can't deport 11 million, but I subscribe to the theory that we can't process that many people, without it turning into 25 million.

    The Merit system floods America with foreign college graduates, and low income workers through chain migration.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    April 29, 2013 12:29 a.m.

    I agree with Senator Lee. Something this complex has to be done in stages. First should come honest enforcement, not the lies this bill contains. Securing several sites on the border is not securing the border. E-verify will not exist for several years, until they build a replacement, if they ever do. Trusting this government to run an honest visa program is a joke.

    This gives the dream act to everyone brought here by parents, no age restrictions. It allows everyone deported to return, it gives amnesty to recent arrivals.

    It's full of holes, loopholes and just plain dishonesty, harming American labor from the poorest, to to six figure incomes.

    Do it step by step with plenty of time for the American citizen to assimilate the bill. With Obamacare, and it's 29 hour lack of medical coverage, business needs lots of surplus labor to fill in the cut hours of their current employees. This bill will let business eliminate the middle class.

    They broke the law, enforce it. Then maybe the American people will believe government, business and churches again.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 28, 2013 6:50 p.m.

    What reforms do we need? How about we secure the border, enforce existing laws, and have an executive order written to or funding allocated to streamline the immigration process?

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    April 28, 2013 6:26 p.m.

    G of J. You can go there to visit and arrange permission to even live there, but you can't work there unless you have the legal documents. Been and done that.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    April 28, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Where would you like to live? I think that the Tropic Islands would be nice, no more cold winters. Strange to me that I could live in a Latin country and love the people. I can go to an African country and make friends I can made friends in Indian countries and nations. Confidence and trust Is earned a little at a time. How can I have respect with out confidence and trust. All any ony can expect is good manners.

  • Watch Dog Provo, UT
    April 28, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    Existing immigration laws are probably just fine. Maybe a little tweaking, but over all, probably just fine. The real catch is that they have NEVER be utilized - and enforced.

    Before we get into the "great unknown" with another batch of bills that no one really has the time and/or can't understand, why don't we just apply the law the way it's written, and THEN see what needs fixed? What a novel thought...actually enforcing existing laws!

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    I think I speak for many of Sen. Lee's constituents when I ask 'what's wrong with the current immigration law; except for the fact that it doesn't get enforced?'

    Most of us who follow the ILLEGAL immigration debate are frustrated when Congress (seemingly) is putting the interests of lawbreakers AHEAD of legal American citizens, including legal emigrants.

    I'm convinced that the "new" law is long on giveaways for lawbreakers, will not be enforced, and for the few who do bother to "sign up" for INS tracking, the "new" system will be very expensive to enforce.

    If we, as voters, can be convinced that: a)those who don't bother to sign up will be deported quickly when caught, and b)the "new" immigration system can/will be enforced, and c)the "new" INS system won't be horribly expensive - we might be "sold" on a "new" bill.

    Congress needs to convince us that the "new" immigration law will be good for legal American citizens, not just businesses who are good lobbyists, and are, for the most part, unethical and lawbreakers!

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 28, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    “And in a groundbreaking move, the Associated Press, the largest news gathering outlet in the world, will no longer use the term ‘illegal immigrant.’ That is out. No longer ‘illegal immigrant.’ They will now use the phrase ‘undocumented Democrat'. Jay Leno
    Why have the Democrats made immigration a joke?