Utah football: Utes have solved their depth issues at quarterback

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  • Bubble Boy Salt Lake City, UT
    April 25, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    Hey Ute fans- I just want you guys to know that me and Ducky and Sammy are BFFs. We're not obsessed with U. Were just concerned, very concerned about U. We think going to the PAC12 where you will get to play against the likes of UCLA, USC, Oregon, ASU,... is really scarry!

  • nosaerfoecioveht NSL, UT
    April 25, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    LOL at duckhunter having a kitten fight with an actual fan!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 25, 2013 10:34 a.m.


    Another failure utah"fan".

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    April 24, 2013 11:01 a.m.


    I'm not trying to fool anyone. I love the Cougars and hope they kill Utah every year. I'm a cougar club member and purchase season tickets every year. I love my team. I am however, still a fan of Utah teams and hope they do well except when they play BYU. I just think it's stupid when Y fans make the rest of us look stupid by putting down another team and their fans when they deserve credit where credit is due. I see BYU fans constantly calling Utah their little brother, ragging on them for having a losing schedule and not going to a better bowl game, and actually believing that crap. Utah has been to 2 BCS games in the past 10 years (and dominated them) and the past 3 years they beat BYU regardless of their record. They also got invited to a better conference than the MWC and we didn't. I think BYU made the best of a bad situation by going independent and I love their contract with ESPN, but I would still rather be in a quality conference.

    Keep trying to paint a better picture...

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 24, 2013 9:50 a.m.


    You're fooling no one. When you declare yourself a "BIG BYU FAN" and then go on to try and criticize real BYU fans everyone knows you are just a utah"fan" trying unsuccessfully to pretend you are a BYU fan. Fail.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    April 23, 2013 8:06 p.m.

    "The Utes recruited a lot of QB's, problem was Coach Whittingham kept moving them to other positions."
    Why is that a problem?"

    Because he didn't have the sense to realize that the QB position is the most important position on the team (not the LB position, not the WR position, etc) and needed to keep adequate depth on the roster.

    He lead them into a historic first season in the Pac12 with a fragile Jordan Wynn backed up by a guy who was a D-II QB just a few weeks earlier. This was the season to get things started off right and create a great first impression.

    He had 2 1st team All PAc Tackles, a 2nd team RB, a good cast of WR's and TE's, and a great defense. With USC on probation and other South Division foes having rebuilding years and NO Oregon or Stanford on the schedule the path was clear for Utah to get to the CCG in their inaugural season. Win that game and it's Rose Bowl first season!

    All that was missing was a decent QB. Instead...Epic fail. Then he repeated that same mistake in year 2.

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    April 23, 2013 4:13 p.m.


    I hope the Utah has solved their QB depth issue. I also like their new OC coaching hire. It's killing me that BYU has been owned by Utah the last 4 years. Hoping for redemption this year so that Utah seniors don't sweep us!

    Duckhunter and Worf - Stop trolling! Like every other BYU fan, we know it kills us to lose to Utah. Nothing you say about Utah having a losing record and not going to a bowl game is going to make BYU look better. That is what makes the rivalry great! The Utes can beat us and even if their season doesn't pan out, at least they beat us and can rub it in all they want.

    Go Cougs! BYU 35 UTAH 34 - Here's hoping!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 23, 2013 3:28 p.m.


    "I do find it interesting that some of the same utah 'fans' that were critical of the number of qb's BYU had on its roster are now saying what a great thing it is that utah has so many qb's on its roster."

    The same fans? Name them. And provide us with the DNews article titles where your position can be verified.

    Please note that I know you (and sammyg) like to make stuff up and dispute strawmen, then "LOL" about it, so I'm going to call you out on it everytime. If you fail to provide us with sufficient evidence, then you are tacitly admitting you frantically and emotionally made it all up.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 23, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    Yes actually, the Utes fans and coaches have much to learn from the tds. In fact we should go independent in football and join the Big Sky for our Olympic sports. Can we borrow the tv truck on the week ends, since it don't get used on Saturdays and Sundays?

    Actually, I don't know why all of them Utah quarterbacks are still here. They should of gained some insight and wisdom from Mr. Heaps.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 23, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    I do find it interesting that some of the same utah "fans" that were critical of the number of qb's BYU had on its roster are now saying what a great thing it is that utah has so many qb's on its roster.

    Yes that is fact, many utah "fans" went on and on about what a waste it was to have 6 qb's on the roster since they can't all play, how those spots were better spent on other positions, how BYU was mismanaging its roster because they had to many qb's, blah, blah, blah.

    My how opinions change. I can guess why they have changed. Obviously it should be apparent to even a utah "fan" that you need depth at the qb position. Maybe they have actually learned that fact. It should also be apparent at this point that you need to actually recruit multiple qb's to actually sign one qb and you need to recruit qb's that you actually intent to keep at qb.

    Maybe utah "fans" and coaches have gained some insight and wisdom that BYU fans and coaches have had for a long time. Maybe.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 23, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Big coug, I'm not saying he didn't whiff, but I don't think it's as easy as just switching people out of the postion. DVC was a great athlete, just not a D-1 QB. Chow, QB guru, was the one who had Griff buried on the depth chart along with Tyler Shreve (who we both forgot about and who left after a year)

    Personally I think it was evidence of the lack of organization on the offensive side of the ball. I THINK Kyle has the fix in place with Erickson, we won't know for a few years, but one thing is for sure, the stable of Qbs has never been bigger than it is right now at Utah. Now let's see if the system and coaching can maximize the talent.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    April 23, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    "The Utes recruited a lot of QB's, problem was Coach Whittingham kept moving them to other positions."
    Why is that a problem? In high school, a kid is often the quarterback because he is the best athlete on the team. In college, "true" quarterbacks are identified, and the other athletes moved to new positions. You make it sound like Coach Whittingham is doing something unusual, when actually he is copying what the other major programs do.

    Cougar fans have complained that NOT moving the quarterback to another position was "a problem" last year. Riley Nelson was a good athlete that could have contributed to the team in another position. He could play quarterback, but he fell short of the great BYU quarterbacks. You should encourage BYU's coaching staff to think of quarterbacks as athletes -- just like Whittingham does.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 23, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    Utah will win the Rose Bowl this year! Then Kyle will get fired for mismanaging his quarterbacks.

    BYU will fail to qualify for a bowl game! Then the Cougars will join the NFL and Bronco will lead them to a Super Bowl win next year.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 23, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    I love how utah "fans" have gone from "we are going to the rose bowl" to "our schedule is so hard". It is just an excuse, and one we are going to hear year after year for decades. You're either good enough or else you aren't. utah isn't, 5-7 proves it. Losing conference records the last 2 years prove it. Never beating a conference team with a winning record proves it. Whining that your schedule is hard proves it.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 22, 2013 11:58 p.m.

    disingenuous whiners

    Every Ute fan would have been ecstatic to go to any bowl game last year. Even if they had one in Laramie on Dec 3rd.

    You're too funny. Let the Rose Bowl and South Division dominance talk continue. This is hilarious.

    For over three years we've heard the hype on how the U. was going to dominate the conference. It hasn't happened, nor will it and another season like last year... and the pitchforks and torches will be coming out.

    I want to hear more of the 'proud' to be in the PAC12 even when we lose comments. Brings a tear to my eye every time someone shares their deep feelings about Ute sports.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    April 22, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    DVC spent about 15 minutes at QB before being moved? As for Griff, he went on his mission and then never got the time of day at QB after his return. Blechen split time at QB with Brody Rohach his senior year of H.S. (both were seniors) and was 15th ranked QB nationally. Also, wasn't Cain 7-1 as a starter (iirc)?

    QB isn't a plug and play position. It takes time to develop them. John Beck the freshman/sophomore looked nothing like John Beck the junior/senior. Its called coaching.

    If Kyle wants to move all of his QB recruits to other positions that's fine, just recruit twice as many as normal so you have depth. No coach gambles that his recruiting efforts are going to pay off with just one or two guys at a position and that they're a lock to commit. Smart HC's have backup plans and are ready if their 1st or 2nd options don't bite.

    There's no way to hide the fact that Kyle whiffed BIG time and at the absolute WORST time, right b4 joining the Pac12.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 22, 2013 8:09 p.m.


    That tiger's going to eat the cougars lunch. lol.

    "Big Sky Conference is now looking very good." To bad, they don't want you either. lol.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 22, 2013 7:05 p.m.


    how is the Big sky? You guys play half the teams from it anyway.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 22, 2013 6:58 p.m.

    U 90--somehow I knew ute fans would be whining of their tough schedule. Rose Bowl becomes a Thorn Bowl. Big Sky Conference is now looking very good.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 22, 2013 6:29 p.m.

    Solving the QB depth issue is scary. The PAC 12 now has a tiger in the tank.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 22, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    Big Coug

    Your only telling half the story.

    DVC tried to make it as a QB at Utah, but didn't get it done. The general consensus on him as a player was that he wasn't D-1 QB, which is why Rivals had him as an athlete, and Scout had him as a safety.

    Robles couldn't surpass John Hayes on the depth chart. Hayes was brought in was because Chow didn't see any viable QBs behind Wynn.

    Blechen didn't even play QB his senior year, questioning the move to defense is a joke.

    Yes, Derrick Brown did commit to Utah, and in turn, Utah committed to him, by shutting down QB recruitment. Brown reopened it, tripped to Washington and flipped. When he tripped to Washington, Utah reopened their recruiting QBs. Chow had been hired, and he almost flipped Eubanks to Utah, to the point where the coaches thought he was going to commit.

    You also forgot 4 star recruit Terrance Cain out of Blinn. He didn't pan out, but it's not like the coaches didn't know they had a need. If he pans out, who knows what would have happened with Wynn.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    April 22, 2013 2:16 p.m.

    "How Utah got in that situation is a familiar story. The Utes didn't recruit enough quarterbacks and Wynn kept getting hurt. "

    Brad Rock you're a coward. The Utes recruited a lot of QB's, problem was Coach Whittingham kept moving them to other positions. Devonte Christopher was a prolific passer in high school and Whitt moved him to WR. Brian Blechen was a 3 star QB in California and Whitt moved him to LB. Griff Robles was a 3 star QB in the state of utah and Whitt moved him all over (he ran the ball way more than he ever passed it).

    Then on top of that lack of foresight, he had the brilliance to think that the brittle Jordan Wynn would be good enough to get them through not 1 but 2 Pac12 seasons ("fool me once..."). Has there been a bigger coaching blunder ever in the state of utah?

    It was a joke that you even started making excuses for players decommitting (Brown) or not committing at all (Eubanks). That happens all the time (isn't that how Wynn ended up at Utah instead of Colorado?). Eubanks didn't even commit at all. That's pretty lame.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    April 22, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    I agree with duckhunter, Utah should have scheduled Idaho, Weber St., Hawaii and New Mexico State last year.... then we would have been invited to a bowl game.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 22, 2013 11:37 a.m.


    Well if that is the case you'll be happy to sit at home again this year because that is utah's most likely destination. I'm glad to see that you are preparing yourself for that eventuality by trying to pretend that is preferable to actually have a winning record and actually going to a bowl game.


  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 22, 2013 11:11 a.m.


    "'If the Utes can start 4-0, watch out Rose Bowl!'...This was stated by one of your very own on another article so it's official. The Rose Bowl fever has a confirmed case."

    Don't be so frantic and emotional. You found TWO Ute fans talking about the Rose Bowl throughout TWO articles. This does not constitute "Rose Bowl FEVER"! I get that you're just desperate for some barbs -- ANY barbs -- to throw at Utah, but you're just embarrassing yourself if that's all you've got.

    I know...it really stung you to see your team lose 3 in a row, 8 of the last 11, and be on the losing end of a generation gap in the all time series, but you are REALLY having a tough time with it. Sweet!

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    "utah would have given anything to play in the kraft fight hunger or armed forces bowl last season."
    Quick test. Can you name the opponents in last years Kraft and Armed Forces bowl last year without going to the internet? Of course not, because nobody cares.

    So no, Utah fans wouldn't have "given anything" to keep a bowl streak alive. If that was important, Utah would have stayed to dominate the MWC. It means more to fans when Utah earns a bowl bid as member of the PAC 12. TCU barely earned a bowl berth at 7-6. Do you think their fans are clamoring to get out of the BIG 12?

    It was "very amusing" to watch the envious remarks from down south, but now its been a couple of years. Shouldn't you be over it? Its starting to sound sad. For example: "the BYU blue/white game had nearly twice the attendance this utah game". That's just pitiful.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 22, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    "The Granddaddy Of Them All" is the hope and dream of every team and their fans in the Big 10 and the Pac12(The Conference Of Champions). As a Ute fan, I'm finding it very enjoyable to be a part of that.

    Sammy and Duck get all frantic and emotional knowing that it could end up being Utah vs the WAC in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl.

    Simply put, Utah would have to settle for the hope and dream of the tds.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    April 22, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    @ sammyg "...it (the Rose Bowl) is the hope and delusional dream of every Ute fan out there."

    That's probably the same message sammy was posting in 2008 (and 2004).

    sammy @ duck, rather than your continual bashing of a football program your Cougars can't beat, why don't you provide us with your assessment of the steps BYU needs to take to upgrade their program to a higher level. You have to admit that nobody will take the Cougs serious if they can't beat a doormat like Utah.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 22, 2013 9:05 a.m.


    I love how utah "fans" like yourself go on and on about how having losing records and not going to bowl games is somehow better than winning records and going to bowl games. utah would have given anything to play in the kraft fight hunger or armed forces bowl last season. The utah "fan" defense mechanism of pretending that they wouldn't have loved it is very amusing for the rest of us to see.

    Maybe you and naval vet can get together and watch the couch potato bowl again this year and then try to tell us how great it is in comparison to going to a real bowl game.


  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    April 21, 2013 7:41 p.m.

    Springville, UT
    Magna Ute

    "If the Utes can start 4-0, watch out Rose Bowl!"

    This was stated by one of your very own on another article so it's official. The Rose Bowl fever has a confirmed case.

    So embrace it, enjoy it for it is what it is and it is the hope and delusional dream of every Ute fan out there.

    I sure am.


    I heard a rumor that BYU will be playing in the Kraft Fight Hunger We Won't Make It To The National Title Bowl.
    Actually I think they are on to something. Guarantee the wishful thinkers a sub-par bowl knowing you won't go any higher.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 21, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    I don't think it can be denied that utah has improved its qb situation. It would be hard not to be better than what they have been the last several years. But whether or not they are going to be good is very much an unanswered question. They have more guys on the roster, we'll see how good those guys actually are.

    April 21, 2013 6:16 p.m.

    Read the comments and haven't seen much that has anything to do with the article. I think the point was Utah has solved the depth issue at QB and I agree. We don't have an upper level PAC 12 QB at this point but a couple of soph's that can play and could be pretty good. Also some freshman behind them plus a couple of wild cards. Much different from the past two years when the cupboard was bare.

    As a die hard fan, I am hoping to see a bowl game this year as my optimistic prediction.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 21, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    Magna Ute

    "If the Utes can start 4-0, watch out Rose Bowl!"

    This was stated by one of your very own on another article so it's official. The Rose Bowl fever has a confirmed case.

    So embrace it, enjoy it for it is what it is and it is the hope and delusional dream of every Ute fan out there.

    I sure am.

  • Proud Ute ,
    April 21, 2013 5:05 p.m.


    Besides the weather factor That's because those two events were all there were to do in Happy Valley that weekend.
    You know the Festival of Colors isn't going to draw many from the BYU crowd and visa versa so most only had one entertainment choice that Saturday.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 21, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Worf is right. Utah is a totally easy win. Well except for byu.

  • agarrett PROVO, UT
    April 21, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    @Thomas Jefferson

    You do realize the BYU blue/white game had nearly twice the attendance this utah game did right? And that was during the festival of colors, which oddly enough attracts tens of thousands of people.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    April 21, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Mark D: Being a part of the Pac-12 conference is a thrill and, as you correctly observed, has required a big adjustment in expectations. The quality of athletics and fans in our new conference is second to none. While we are hoping for a different outcome on November 9th, it is always a privilege to host ASU.

    As you stated...here's to a successful year in the PAC for all member schools!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 21, 2013 2:14 p.m.

    To D4inSLC:

    The most recent Y win over Utah will be September 21 of this year. Put it in writing. It's done deal.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    April 21, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    I seriously can't believe the endless bickering between BYU and Utah fans over games played and won in the past. The best thing about College Football is there is a new season every fall. Things that happened in 2008 or clear back in 1984 mean nothing. Every player, coach, team, and program has to prove and improve themselves each and every year.
    Although I'm sure Utah has made significant changes and improvement in preperation for the coming year, so has EVERY other program in the PAC-12. Last season all Utah fans and most College football Specialists predicted Utah challenging USC for the South and a Rose Bowl berth. UCLA, Arizona, and ASU all introduced new coaches and Utah's "Top 10" coach lost to each of them.
    Next season Utah could climb to the top and go undefeated, or go 1-11. Teams that play you dont care if you won the Sugar Bowl in 2008.

  • Mark D LAS VEGAS, NV
    April 21, 2013 1:35 p.m.

    As an ASU alum, I hope that the U can make the necessary adjustments and put together a solid year in the PAC this year. But be careful about anointing your boys "PAC12 South Champs" before you've made much noise in the PAC since getting here...

    The PAC isn't an easy road (as you've found out...), and just as you're making adjustments and stepping up, so are some of your fellow PAC schools as well (you can have Dennis, I'm glad we upgraded to Coach Graham...).

    Here's to a successful year in the PAC for all member schools! And for you U Fans, we'll see you on November 9th at the RES...35-14 again?

    April 21, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    So Bass,
    Speaking of doormat, when was the last time the y beat the Utes?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    April 21, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    I think both Utah and BYU have a chance to get back on track. I think both have more stability at the Quarterback spot than we have seen the last couple of years. I think the match-up of Wilson and Hill will be a great one to watch this year.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    April 21, 2013 10:36 a.m.


    If its so quick and easy, what's BYU's excuse?

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    April 21, 2013 9:57 a.m.

    Pac 12 Fever- Huh??? Not a single Ute fan on the comments on this article said anything about winning the South. Chris B doesn't count. EVERYONE knows he's just a troll. ThomasJefferson proclaimed himself a BYU/Nebraska fan. A little obsessive wishful thinking on your part?

    I am excited about the progress the Utes are making. There is some really nice looking depth on the O-line. There is some depth at QB. The DBs are looking good. I would like to see a step forward this year. The schedule is pretty brutal though. Hopefully we'll be in a bowl game in December.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    April 21, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    I wish the Utes the best of luck this year - unless they are playing BYU. Chris B, you sound just like those BYU fans you make fun of. I am still laughing!

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    April 21, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    Mcallen, TX
    PAC 12 are proud to have Utah, and Colorado. Adding two extra wins will allow more teams to bowl games.

    When the talent level is low, building depth is quick, and easy.


    And losses to OSU, ND, UT, SJ St. and BSU helped BYUs bowl didn't it?

    When the talent level is, well, whatever, blaming the refs is quick, and easy.

    April 21, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    Great spring game. I noticed that there was very little about special teams. Tom Hackett had one punt for 53 yards, but the kickers did not do any kickoffs or field goals. Only PATs which any high school kicker can hit. That was a bit strange.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 21, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    It's spring And to spruce things up around the house I bought two new doormats. They look nice but worf, I wouldn't say I'm proud of them

  • Pac 12 Fever Salt Lake City, UT
    April 21, 2013 3:46 a.m.

    Wow...ute fans getting excited and claiming victory of the South PAC.....puuhhhllleeezzzzzz.....

    Let's get a winning record in the PAC . Right now u are looked upon as a Colorado-easy. Especially since u are 1-1 against them since joining us.

    And BYU fans...now u see how wierd u look claiming to be in the running every year for a,BCS Bowl. U are a 20-35 ranked team at best.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 20, 2013 10:36 p.m.

    PAC 12 are proud to have Utah, and Colorado. Adding two extra wins will allow more teams to bowl games.

    When the talent level is low, building depth is quick, and easy.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2013 10:16 p.m.

    Will be a great race in the south. I can see anyone winning other than Colorado. I think everyone will beat up everyone.

    If the offense is finally put together and I think it is, we could have a great season

    With two coaches that combine for several national championship, bcs wins, undefeated seasons, this season could indeed be rosey

    I like our chances as well as anyone in the south.

    I am still 100 percent behind whittingham. Top 10 coach in the nation. Lets be thankful we have him. Great coach and great man. Classy all around.

    Proud of our program!

    April 20, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    Wilson looked good against a defense of mostly walkons plus a few offensive players. It was fun to see him put drives together and make some nice connections with K Scott, but ease up on the "solved depth issues" talk, Brad, this scrimmage doesn't tell us a lot. By the time fall camp comes around, I expect the real battle to be between Wilson and Cox, but Schulz has definitely proven his legitimacy on the team. Of all the positions to walk onto a football team and even just earn a scholarship, QB would definitely have to be the toughest.