Religion and marriage

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  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    April 24, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    ldsliberal; finish out the quote. "go thy way and sin no more."

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 22, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    "On the other hand, the standards taught in the Bible were correct and for our best good when they were given and their author has never changed them."


    What's next --
    We'll have conservatives clamoring for burning people at the stake and holding public stonings.

    Look - You want to live by biblical teachings?
    So do I.

    Love one another.
    Treat others the way you wish to be treated.
    Let him who is without sin cast the 1st stone.
    Where are thy accusers? Neither do I accuse you.

    Jesus was a bleeding heart...

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    April 22, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    My 15 year relationship has been good for me despite the fact that so many people out there refuse to acknowledge it! Since both of our families have been accepting, we have been able to be a part of their lives. As far as I can see, it has done nothing to harm any of them. Many are active Mormons and have been married in the temple. Give us a little credit. I think we can figure some things out ourselves, including the fact that God created us just the way He wanted us to be. Whatever happens, I certainly won't let others tell me who I can love or who I can share my life with!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 22, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    "On the other hand, the standards taught in the Bible were correct and for our best good when they were given and their author has never changed them."


    And on yet another hand, the standards taught in the Koran were correct and for our best good when they were given and their author has never changed them.

    In what way is your thinking any different than Islamic extremeists and Sharia Law?

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    April 21, 2013 5:05 p.m.

    @J Thompson;

    What makes you so sure that the religion you follow isn't the one that has "distorted and changed" the truth? What makes you so sure those who penned the bible weren't the ones following "Satan's Plan" in order to aggrandize themselves in their ancient society?

    You really should be more careful stating absolutes about faith, since there really aren't any.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    April 21, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    I'm not convinced that Chad has actually read the Bible or he would not have used it to serve the purposes of his argument.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    April 21, 2013 2:32 p.m.

    God never intended to destroy our free agency. That was Sarah's plan. Why not give folks the free agency to marry who they desire and then let god judge them?

  • Linguist Silver Spring, MD
    April 21, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    With respect, my partner of many years and I are people of faith. Please do not speak for our faith.

    We were married in a mainstream Reform Jewish temple--one of the largest in the country, and the same one where my partner became bar mitzvah decades ago. Our faith follows the fundamental principle of Social Justice --- for all. Reform Judaism supports marriage equality under the law for gay couples.

    While you are certainly free to believe your view of God is the correct one, I would hope you would accord us the same respect we accord you. Let us exercise our right to civil marriage as our faith instructs us, and you can marry civilly as your faith instructs you.

    To do otherwise would mean only your faith can determine how we live our lives and that cannot hold under the principle of Equal Protection under the law. Peace.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    April 21, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Those who are a law unto themselves will mock God and religion. Yes, there is more than one religion because other mockers have distorted truth and changed it, just as mockers today redefine words to suit their appetites and passions. They look for flaws in recorded history instead of searching for the words that would make them better sons and daughters, fathers and mothers. They try to destroy anything of worth because those of worth, i.e. the followers of God strive to put God first in their lives instead of putting themselves first.

    That was the plan of Satan from the beginning - to put himself above God, to redefine eternal law to suit his purposes, to instruct all people to mock God and the eternal laws that would produce eternal happiness.

    As Ether told us, fools mock, but they shall mourn. God loved us enough to send his only begotten Son to teach us, to lead us, to guide us, to redeem us. Just as there were those who mocked Christ then, there are those who continue to mock God, his Son, and the prophets that he has selected to help us through difficult times.

  • isrred South Jordan, UT
    April 21, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    "On the other hand, the standards taught in the Bible were correct and for our best good when they were given and their author has never changed them."

    This has to be sarcasm right?

    Slavery, polygamy, dietary laws against pork and shellfish, genocide, rape, etc etc.

    Really, none of that has changed since thousands of years ago?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 21, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Get rid of all State sponsored marriages. Everyone could contract to be bound with religion or group to govern marriage (and divorce). How much revenue do those licenses generate? Only a nanny state controls relationships and religion.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 21, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    However, your assertion that biblical standards are correct has to be taken in the context that it constitutes what is right based on your religious worldview, and that it cannot be imposed on society at large if the concept of religious freedom has any value at all.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    April 21, 2013 8:02 a.m.

    I guess that non-religious people need not apply for a marriage license?

    Religion is NOT a requirement to marry. Period.

    If you're religious and want a religious ceremony, fine, have one. But you have absolutely no right to determine who may or may not be allowed to marry if it isn't you you're making that determination for.

    Let me repeat one more time. Religious affiliation is NOT necessary to marry. Religions do not have a patent on the word marriage. Keep your religious beliefs and allow others the same privilege.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    April 21, 2013 7:23 a.m.

    Laws supporting the institution of slavery were also imposed by "wise men" over a long period of time. Did that make them right or just?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    April 21, 2013 6:54 a.m.

    "On the other hand, the standards taught in the Bible were correct and for our best good when they were given and their author has never changed them."

    I'm so confused.

    Are you supposed to marry your brothers wife if he dies?
    Should a man marry multiple women?
    Is it adultery to remarry after divorce?

    The standards taught in the bible are all over the map.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    April 21, 2013 5:45 a.m.

    Chad I think you will agree that we don't hold all the standards in the bible equal. There is still much to say about slavery in the bible. We all realize slavery is wrong. It was part of human history, but we do not want to proliferate it further, even though the bible says its ok. Tell me what I'm missing here.