Obama lambasts Senate gun vote as 'shameful day'

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  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    April 19, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    The President was hoping the Democrat Senators would listen to him and jump when told. Those Senators are up for an election and know that this President has his agenda and won't support them for election and if he does, that the people may vote for the Republican.

    The President wanted the Senate to vote for his changes to make it the House of Representative's fault for not passing to get to the people's hearts to vote against all those people in Congress in 2014. He wanted all control over everything, even the Supreme Court, to be the most non-lame duck with Chicago tactics in control.

    Gun Control is an issue of freedoms that can be lost, not necessarily just the loss of control. Freedoms are more important. Living in Germany, 25 years after the war, I still saw some evidence of those inroads Hitler made in the 1930s and 1940s. I could see why we were there as a military power protecting ourselves against Russia. Being in South Korea off and on for 5 1/2 years, I could see why we were there as North Korea and China are still a threat for that area and Alaska.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    April 18, 2013 6:27 p.m.

    Truth is, Obama knew that the bill would never pass the House. He wanted it to pass the Senate so that he could then blame the Republicans in the House for the defeat of the bill, which he thought would play well at the 2014 midterms. Now Obama is saddled with the fact that some Democrats joined with the Republicans in defeating the bill in the Harry Reid Senate. Interesting to see how childish the man Obama can act when he doesn't get his way. Here's my advice BO. When things don't go your way, go golfing.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 18, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    I can't say I was all that surprised at how the vote went. The NRA and the gun manufacturing industry parcel out large sums in campaign contributions to elect opponents and defeat proponents of legislation that impacts gun sales. It's no overstatement to say moral cowardice of some in the Senate was a decisive factor in the defeat of expanded background checks. May the voters remember their names next election.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    April 18, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    I noticed that in the article, it mentioned that the senators were afraid of a "vocal Minority" of gun owners. If that is true and a possibility in the next election, then maybe the 'minority' is not really a minority after all.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    April 18, 2013 2:15 p.m.

    No more shameful than the "Fast and Furious" gun running scheme by Holder and his minions.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 18, 2013 1:34 p.m.

    This was not a total loss for Obama.

    Now he's got more ammo for blaming Republicans over his failed economic agendas, and whatever. Doesn't matter that Democrats voted down his gun control bill. Our follow citizens wouldn't know the difference.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 18, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    It is now good to know who really promote family values. Not our Utah delegation

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    April 18, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    1 victory for the constitution and the bill of rights. 1 loss by those who would grab all power to themselves.

  • Built2Last Provo, UT
    April 18, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    Makes me ill when politicians use the phrase "the American people want this." Really? Do they? Only eight percent of American's feel gun control is even an important issue. So, Barrack, who is listening to the American people? You or the Senators? And how exactly does this bill "protect our children"? It does absolutely nothing to prevent another Sandy Hook from happening. All it does is allow the liberals to feel that "something" is being done on their watch. Why not do "something" that actually addresses the problem?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    April 18, 2013 10:12 a.m.


    "....I have confidence that the senators were listening to their constituencies and not falling for the dramatics and hype that makes for "good politics"...."

    With recent polls showing public support for increased background checks running at an all time high of 90%, some instinct or other tells me it wasn't their constituents the Senators were paying heed to.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 18, 2013 10:10 a.m.

    Why does the Obama family have armed guards?

    When is the last time Obama had to protect himself and family with a gun??--Colorado Kid 2013

    Let's just wait till a crisis occurs then deal with it. That's smart.

  • wrz Pheonix, AZ
    April 18, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    @one old man:
    "Hatch and Lee opposed this without offering anything else. Hmmmmmm."

    Hatch and Lee have read the US Constitution's 2nd Amendment. And for your benefit and other gun-ownership haters it goes something like this: '... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'

    These guys in the Congress and the White House are spinning their wheels, wasting valuable time and tax money trying to pass something that will be ruled unconstitutional...

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    April 18, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    I hope Joe Biden (strange facial frowning look on the picture) doesn't run for President. How pathetic look on his face. Obama? Either way, if it does pass, then we are doomed not just for buisness but more riots that we fear.

  • MGB Saint George, UT
    April 18, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    I can not believe that none of the Sandy Hook parents have not yet sued the school district for not protecting their children in the first place. The schools have a fiduciary responsilibity to protect our children when they are required to be there. Why were there not armed guards there to protect them like Obama's kids get. So many have eyes to see but see not and ears to hear but hear not.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 18, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    This is evidence of Obama wanting total control of our country. Obama care is another.

  • Lindsay Payson, UT
    April 18, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    Considering the mess that healthcare is becoming, I don't trust the federal government to deal with gun control.

  • Joan Watson TWIN FALLS, ID
    April 17, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    Regardless of more and ever more gun ownership restrictions, tragedy such as school shootings have, and perhaps will yet occur. It makes more sense to have the presence of an armed official to better safe guard schools against crazed maniacs.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 17, 2013 9:01 p.m.

    Old man,
    An idiot can propose something. But it takes thoughtfulness and wisdom to devise something effective. Thoughtfulness and wisdom are not welcome in harry reid's or BO's world.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 17, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    @ One old man. It was NO solution and intelligent people knew it. That's why they didn't vote for it; it would protect no one! Crooks can get guns by stealing them, buying them off the streets or making their own. It was all symbolism without any substance. That's why!

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    April 17, 2013 8:40 p.m.

    One Old Man: That's because the only retort the GOP or paranoid gun owners have is to arm everyone. When is the last time you had to protect yourself or someone else with a gun??

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 17, 2013 8:34 p.m.

    Apparently most Senators knew all along criminals and disturbed people will steal guns, buy them off the street or whatever to get around worthless laws. Obviously Obama doesn't know that or doesn't care.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    April 17, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    Any idiot can oppose something.

    But it takes thoughtfulness and wisdom to propose a SOLUTION to a serious problem.

    Hatch and Lee opposed this without offering anything else.


  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 17, 2013 8:28 p.m.

    This is 'checks and balances', and the way government is suppose to work.

    The presidents reaction is shameful, but it's a patriotic victory for the United States of America.

  • Whattheheck? Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    No BO, it's you who is shameful. Let's watch the 2-year old throw a tantrum because he doesn't get what he wants. I have confidence that the senators were listening to their constituencies and not falling for the dramatics and hype that makes for "good politics". Thank goodness this bill didn't pass...would have been the first step towards negating our constitutional rights.

  • Superfluous Anaheim, CA
    April 17, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    I'd have to read the bill in its entirety. Let's not forget: many bills are rejected, not because the main idea isn't wanted, but because it includes a phrase that could be abused.

    Look at the Patriot Act. The wording is such that anybody suspected of anything can be the target of phone or email taps or questioned indefinitely. They used the 9/11 tragedy to sneak that one in or it would NEVER have passed. And now, the school shootings. Never let a tragedy go to waste.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    April 17, 2013 6:51 p.m.

    Shameful is a good word, pathetic is another.

  • HS Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    In politcs as in life. You want to know where the power lies? Follow the money. Like we did not see this coming.