Senator Harry Reid has introduced Senate Bill 649 under the Orwellian title of
the “Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013.”Under
some of its provisions, you would be committing a federal felony if you:1) Leave town for more than 7 days, and leave someone else at home with
your firearms;2) Lend a firearm to a friend to take shooting or to go
hunting;3) Loan a firearm to a family member if they live at a different
residence;4) Hand a firearm to someone at a gun club which is not a
shooting range;5) Teach someone to shoot on your own land, if you hand
them the firearm; or6) Fail to report a firearm as lost or stolen within
24 hours.There are five levels of federal felonies, with the least
imposing a penalty of one to five years.I direct this to those who
are neither pro- or anti-gun, but think that “common sense” gun laws
are needed. Do you believe any of the above would make the environment safer or
deter crime? Does it not become apparent that the real aim is to
deter/eliminate gun ownership?
The President is putting some of those elected officials into a bind with this
bill which impacts on the second amendment in minds and souls of people. The
President promised that people would save $2500 on health care and wouldn't
cost them a dime more. Those individuals up for an election in 2014 have almost
rolled into their campaign time and people will have time to see an impact on
this by then. Pelosi and Reid have the task of ensuring superiority and the
President just can't get away from campaigning. He loves that but not
governing as he should. He is good at snippets but not policy and a real
legacy. He is good at publicity and not at staying at home in the White House
and being a diplomat. He believes in being a "star" but can't play
the saxophone but can go to the late night shows being a "comedian".
Yes, Obama flew folks from Newtown to Capitol Hill to testify and lobby. Funny,
they were all folks who agree with him. The family members who think we have
tough enough gun laws weren't invited.Maybe the filibuster is
used too often, I don't know. But how often has Harry Reid kept bills and
amendments he doesn't like from ever seeing the light of day? By himself?
Heard anything from the media about how unfair and terrible THAT is? Me
neither.Too much of the "debate" about the 2nd amendment is
far off base from what the Framers intended. Read the amendment. It's
about guaranteeing the civilian population the ability to keep the government
from falling into the same despotic forms as the governments they and their
families had fled in coming to the New Land. Many despots in history started
their rule by finding out who had weapons, then convincing the people they
didn't need them anymore and disarming the civilians. Sorry, I'm not
No decision, or debate about it. The second amendment spells it out.
@Redshirt" If you were to take all guns away from every non-military
or law enforcement person in the US, how does that help fix the mental health
issues that lead people to commit mass murder?"We can pass
another bill about mental health though every time Democrats work on something
related to healthcare Republicans call it either socialism or just another big
spending program so... I'm not getting my hopes up that anything can be
done on that front. @the truth"We already have background
checks,"No, not for ALL gun purchases we don't.
"The least Republicans owe the parents of those 20 little babies who were
murdered at Sandy Hook is a thoughtful debate about whether stronger laws could
have saved their little girls and boys," Reid said.There will be no
"thoughtful debate" with these people. They wallow in the blood of
innocents after every tragedy, pushing their anti-gun agenda - none of which
would have prevented or will prevent these shootings.These
despicable people use these murdered children as a generator of emotions so that
people won't look too closely at their bills. They remind me of the
stereotypical witch doctor in those old black and white movies, shaking the
bodies of those unfortunates at the people in an attempt to con them into
following their wishes.The 1968 Gun Control Act SPECIFICALLY
exempted private sales as even then it was widely recognized that the background
check data keeping could easily morph into a registration/confiscation scheme.
The ink was barely dry before the liberals began screaming "loophole!"
and have been pushing ever since for it's expansion.What good is a
Constitutional right when you have to get the government's permission to
to Red ShirtWe also have the best Military in world. How did that
happen? Was it government or was it a "for profit organization".
Unfortunately our current health care system excludes so many people whol avoid
care because of costs. The preventative care is what is lacking.
@Atl134NO one is making it easier to buy a gun.But the
right IS a constitutional right.Pain and simple.We
already have background checks, and have tens of thousands of gun
laws on the books acrros the land,NOne of whihch has had stopped a
single the bad guyso how will stopping the good guys fix the
probelms?We never had all these probems in the past with much more
easier accesss to guns,Clearly, the problem is something else.
To "atl134" you still have not anwered the questions. If you were to
take all guns away from every non-military or law enforcement person in the US,
how does that help fix the mental health issues that lead people to commit mass
murder?All you have done is disarm the people, the mentally ill are
still mentally ill. Your ilk claims to want to help people, but their recent
gun control push does nothing to help people and only suppresses Constitutional
The only reason Obama is focusing on gun control is because he doesn't want
anyone to talk about the sinking economy! Let's get people working and
then worry about it ... no one can afford a gun anyway!
To "louie" if Obamacare results in care similar to other countries
around the world, we will end up killing more people. One data point can be
seen in Canada. Because of their rationing system, people have to wait for
cardiac surgeries. Because of the wait times imposed by the government, they
have a well established mortality rate that is higher than the US for similar
heart conditions.If you want to look at cancer survival rates, the
US has the best survival rates for most cancers. Now, if the government starts
to ration that treatment how many more people will die because the government
couldn't afford to give everybody everything?The facts show
that when it comes to disease, the US can react faster than any other nation
(according to WHO). What do you think will happen when we are reduced to the
reaction times found around the world?
@Redshirt"how does removing guns or making guns harder to purchase do
anything for the mental health issues that any of the murderers have?"By making it harder for people with mental health issues to purchase
guns?@Mountanman"Do you really believe criminals will fall
in line and obey more gun control laws when they don't obey any laws,
that's why they are criminals? "So we should facilitate
their crimes by making it extremely easy to buy a gun?
@ Louie. Do you really believe criminals will fall in line and obey more gun
control laws when they don't obey any laws, that's why they are
criminals? This is not about keep you people safe, it about power and control.
re lost in dcreally?
Mike Lee is a bad person.
@1conservativeI got news for you. Obamacare will, in all
probability, save more lives. Failure to implement more gun controls will
continue to put more and more lives at risk. Which side of this debate do you
really want to be on.
Doesn't anyone remember what happened last time we shoved a bill through?
Remember Nancy Pelosi's official explanation on what the bill will do,
"We have to pass the bill, to find out what's in it"That's exactly what the Dems are doing now. Just pass the bill with all
of their pork, the republcian pork and other pork. And find out two years from
now that we have new taxes, tax increases, more spending and a bill that did
nothing to protect one little child.If they were serious about
saving even one childs life, as barack claims. Then why not get rid of all of
the swimming pools and open bodies of water? If we can save one life as biden
has repeated then it's worth it. Because there isn't a deep pocket
for that yet. Once there is a deep pocket you have every loser which includes
politicians and occupy nut cases at the door wanting their "fair" share.
Come on now...The truth?It is very simple.This is all about
MONEY.Legislators want money coming in from the NRA for their
campaigns.NRA wants to keep money rushing in to them from the
manufacturers of deadly weapons, who are beholden to them.Kind of makes
one feel nauseated, doesn't it?Now, again, how many human beings die
each year as a result of being shot by gun?
Its interesting that some of the Obama followers are NOW disgusted at the
Repubs. using parliamentary tactics to stop non-sensical gun regulations; but
were just fine using parliamentary procedures to ram through Obamacare.I wonder if Obama will make any sweet deals with demo or Repub. holdouts like
he did with Obamacare?Cornhusker kickback?, louisiana purchase?
etc....Send some federal contracts to the states that comply with
To "dave4197" how does removing guns or making guns harder to purchase
do anything for the mental health issues that any of the murderers have?If your car gets a flat tire, do you change out the air freshener. That
is what Congress is wanting to do with their gun control laws. Yes they can say
they did something, but what they did does not solve the problem.If
you look at most every mass murderer, they have a history of mental illness that
is not being addressed at all by the politicians.
Did BO use campaign funds or taxpayer money to ferry those 11 relatives to DC on
Airforce 1?"The least Republicans owe the parents of those 20
little babies who were murdered at Sandy Hook is a thoughtful debate about
whether stronger laws could have saved their little girls and boys," Reid
said.reid using “those 20 little babies” as a political
prop is disgusting. But I am not surprised reid would stoop that low. Nothing
appears to be beneath him. And NONE of the laws he is proposing would have
stopped Sandy Hook. Why does he not feel as strongly for the millions of babies
aborted in this country each year?I am GLAD to have a senator who
cares enough about our constitutional rights to work to prevent dems and other
libs from infringing on them
Please (sen) Mike Lee, stop your filibuster plans. The Senate should vote on
this bill, and other bills before it. The Senate should end the filibuster as a
blockage and just have a full debate and let the votes be made, tally them up
and learn which side won, that would be closer to democracy than your endless
talking about your position. Enough already, of you (sen) Lee!There's no problem constitutionally or otherwise with background checks
for potential gun owners. This is a public safety matter and ferreting out
lawbreakers and mentally ill and unstable people from owning guns is not any
infringement. Stop your ridiculousness (sen) Lee.
If Mike Lee filibusters this bill he should be run out of the Senate at the next
election and never again me nominated for anything. His political career should