Broadcasters worry about 'Zero TV' homes

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    April 10, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    After our cable service kept jacking our rate up, we dumped them and returned to an antenna. Why pay a boatload for a bunch of garbage, when, for the price of an antenna, our garbage is free, albeit limited.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    April 10, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    This is some of best news I've read in a long time. The cable and satellite companies had better get theirs now, because the day will come when we don't need them and their over priced service.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    April 10, 2013 5:04 a.m.

    I've read the added comments for this article several times, and I love postings indicating there are many of us who don't want our minds filled with garbage, or our pocketbooks lightened by outrageous fees.

  • Be fair Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 10, 2013 12:03 a.m.

    I use OOMA for VOIP telephone. No monthly cost. Just a one-time equipment cost which paid for itself a couple of years ago.

  • jrgl CEDAR CITY, UT
    April 9, 2013 8:06 p.m.

    We are a Zero TV household! All it took was that last "bundle & save" satellite TV, internet & land phone service package that promised a rebate of a $200 prepaid Visa card that never came ever! I guess a lot of other people never got that prepaid card either as there was a class action lawsuit about it. We also were promised a set price for 2 years contract, but when the bill came it was a good $55. to $75 a month more than was promised in the advertising. They added so many fees. What is a universal fee anyway? The cable had the worst customer service & the bill was regularly messed up! When the 2 years was up we pulled the plug on it all!
    We found a local internet provider who charges exactly what they quote in their ads. No mystery fees & taxes! Netflix keeps us up on all the movies & programs we want to see. Many times we go directly to ABC or NBC to watch their content.
    After our horrible experience with the rip off and deceptive "bundle & save" we will be Zero TV for life.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    April 9, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    re: MapleDon

    KSL hasn't had anything worthwile on in years!

    I have similar viewing interests to Dante but am an Info junkie. I love Bloomberg, H2, & HLN in the a.m.

    This is a great time of year to sit and read with MLB network (diminshed volume) on in the background

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 9, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    To "MapleDon" not really because you can watch the KSL news broadcasts live on their website, which also generates income for them.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    April 9, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    I can understand DesNews' concern with the "Zero TV" crowd. It means less money for their sister entity, KSL. As far as KSL is concerned, our family is part of the "Zero TV" crowd. We don't watch that channel at all. And I don't miss it.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 9, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    Thanks, RedShirt. I'll check it out. We do have grandkids who vist. The 16.x channels come in pretty good. I get 19.x channels but they are weak and come and go. I'm curious to know what cities the 19.x channels are broadcast from. It's nice living in the SL valley, because the TV towers are all on Farnsworth Peak and have good coverage.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    April 9, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    To "Allen" if you have small kids Qubo, chanel 16.2, is another good one. It has old cartoons and cartoons that try to teach something of value.

  • CKS007 Clearfield, UT
    April 9, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    My household cut the cord in 2008 and we have never looked back. We watch what we can stream over Netflix, Hulu+ or YouTube (and there are many more streaming services to choose from) and we enjoy watching over-the-air TV (love MeTV on 4.2 and wish we had more of the ThisTV network on 2.2). Every time I talk with someone new, they tell me that they cut the cord and love it. As for sports, if they are going to ignore a growing part of the local population (see Utah Jazz) then we will pay less attention to them and their sponsors. I would pay for a season package to just stream Jazz games over my internet connected blu-ray player but they don't want my money. I have zero interest in overpaying for cable channels that I never watch. 24 hour news and sports channels are worthless. Comcast started sending salesmen to our door (who would just give up the moment we mentioned Netflix) and then started mailing me advertisements in Spanish (huh?). I will never pay for an outdated delivery system again. I'm only interested in content.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    April 9, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    In the town that I live in I can't get a cell phone signal. TV signal has never been. The computer is the best thing for entertainment to me.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 9, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    For those who want good family programs, I recommend BYUtv (channel 11.2 in the SL valley). Some of the programs are LDS oriented, but many are not. One show that my wife and I enjoy on BYUtv and is a real tear-jerker is DOC. I enjoy American history from American Ride. Stan Elsworth looks like a member of a motorcycle gang, and he rides his bike from place to place as he talks about American history. I like his perspective on history. I like Story Trek because it shows interviews with real people, people of all walks of life. MEtv (channel 4.2 in the SL valley) is good for the oldies. It's nice having Bewitched and Jeannie back to back. Silly programs but fun to watch and relaxing.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    April 9, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    My wife and I don't watch a lot of TV, and we've never paid much for cable TV. I do use cable for my Internet connection (20 Mbps not the new 50 Mbps), but I've cut the cord on cable TV. I've just finished installing and locating an indoor digital antenna and amplifier, and I'm getting all of the SLC TV broadcasts. This gives me PBS and MeTV, and that is all I need. I missed a lot of shows when I was younger due to college, mission, army, marriage, and I'm enjoying seeing them for the first time on MeTV. Even though I'd never seen it, I'd always thought of M*A*S*H as a sex-riddled program, but most of the episodes are OK. A few are questionable. My army experience was during the Korean war, and I enjoy seeing the equipment on M*A*S*H. I like Wild, Wild, West because of the techie gadgets they have hidden away. A silly program but fun to watch. As I get caught up on the oldie programs, I assume and hope my TV watching will go down to almost zero.

  • Dante Salt Lake City, UT
    April 9, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Never tried cable in our home. We still use the antenna on the roof. We record on VHS four shows a week--NCIS, Person of Interest, Elementary, and Mentalist. We watch them later, fast-forwarding through the commercials. That's the full extent of our television viewing. We used to enjoy watching the Jazz games on Channel 13 until Larry Miller's son took them away. We attended a dozen games a year back in the Sloan-Malone-Stockton-Hornacek days. We no longer know one Jazz player from another, and don't miss it. Whenever I've watched cable (at friends' homes or in hotels on the road), it seems all I do is scan through more channels of useless garbage or mindlessly repetitive news rebroadcasts on CNN, etc. Our free television provides plenty enough useless garbage--darned if I'm going to pay just to access more of it. I refuse to waste my time watching "reality" TV or talk shows that get all worked up over trivia like make-overs and recipes.

  • Florien Wineriter Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 9, 2013 7:00 a.m.

    I jpay $100 a month for 20 minutes of commercials per hour and canned audience sound tracks! .And comdians posing as newscasters.It is ridiculous

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    April 8, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    Many of the commenters bring up a good point...that there is just so much on TV that most people just don't want to watch, be that for moral reasons, interests, or what have you. This is the great thing about watching on the Internet. Between Netflix, Hulu (free), ESPN, Amazon, and Youtube, I can watch all the old shows I like (Andy Griffith, Hogan's Heroes, Star Trek, etc.), plus the one or two newer shows that I like, college sports, and pretty much any movie I want, all on demand with minimal or no commercials, and without paying through the nose for 200 channels I'll never use. Sure, I'd like to get the History Channel, the Science Channel, and a few others like it, but the cost is not worth the benefit, and I figure that it's only a matter of time until everything is on the Internet anyway. Besides, to be honest I don't have that much time to spend watching straight TV programming anyway.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    April 8, 2013 9:33 p.m.

    We haven't had pay TV for years and don't miss it one bit. And the networks don't care a bit. Cable operators are among the dumbest marketers on God's earth. They think the best way to entice us back into cable contracts is to offer free porn for 3 months. How dumb is that? We also don't watch DWTS, Bachelor garbage, Idol, and any of the other staged reality shows. Good wholesome movies are hard to find, but they can be found on the Internet. And the detective shows on TV haven't shown anything close to good TV for years now. Blood, guts, and gore are not my thing. Even cartoons are garbage today. And how about the celebrity award shows, that parade the immoral role models such as the Kardashians and other creepy people I don't want any of my family to emulate. There are few good writers, and if they exist, they are not writing good TV, because garbage sells better than what I would choose. They have lost my business, and I don't see any signs they want me back. Bye bye!

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    April 8, 2013 7:59 p.m.

    I haven't had TV for years but about a year ago I had to spend a few days in the hospital and so I flipped through a lot of TV channels. I felt like I was being dragged through the telestial kingdom or Dante's Inferno: everything was sordid or silly or frivolous or worldly or crude or violent or a combination of these. What a waste of time. I have better respect for my brain than to immerse it into this trash. If people have stopped watching TV, it is the industry's fault--they insult us with what they provide. People who spend time watching TV say something uncomplimentary about their brains!

  • Dorothy Provo, UT
    April 8, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    My husband and I have never had cable in 33 years of marriage. We used to watch regular TV when there were good programs worth watching on TV like Northern Exposure, West Wing, MASH, Thirty Something, Pushing Daisies, Monk, ER, the early seasons of The Office, King of Queens, etc. Now there is nothing good on regular TV except Downton Abbey and Granite Flats, to name a few. We have Netflix streaming and through-the-mail DVDs.

    There is too much garbage on TV and it's sad people tune into it. There are so many wonderful things in the world to put in your brain in place of this trash.

    We rarely watch prime time news, getting our news online or from two papers we subscribe to. My 83-year-old mother was paying more than $100 for cable because she liked Animal Planet and the History Channel. We ended her subscription and she watches similar shows on regular TV.

    Save your money and find freebies. Cable TV should never have been structured the way it was - paying for hundreds of stations when you only wanted a few. Consumer should have been able to pick packages of 5 or 10 stations.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    April 8, 2013 7:19 p.m.

    I agree with Aaron S. I watched Ghost Town Gold on Discovery Channel a few months ago (at my parents' home) because one of the guys on it is a friend. That is the only viewing I done in years. For about 30 years, I've watched less than 10 hours per year. I'd rather hike, garden, cook, sew, write, read, travel, socialize, play games or snooze. I'd even rather work! The junk I've heard about being broadcast is so revolting, or demeaning, or just ridiculous that why waste my time? There are worthwhile things to watch on DVDs or via internet, and when I'm unable to do what I like doing now, maybe I'll sit in front of a screen, but not to watch typical television fare.

    April 8, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    I've been ZeroTV for 25 years and manage just fine with a DVD/VHS player. It's not a matter of changing their platform, but ridding TV of the ubiquitous FILTH. I shudder just listening to people talk about the offal they watch. Whatever you put into your one-and-only mind is there forever: it behooves one to screen it carefully. And that means, ZERO TV!

  • PA Rock Man Allentown, PA
    April 8, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    Aggie 238 is right. I am 29 years old. I do not have cable. None of my peers have cable. None of us are going to buy cable anytime soon. Supposedly we are the most lucrative demographic but none of us are watching tv because we are watching NETFLIX. We are willing to pay for the content we want but refuse to pay for content we dont want.

  • Aggie238 Logan, UT
    April 8, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    Cable/Satellite companies are going to have to adapt or they will die. Myself and most other twenty-somethings have never purchased these services, and likely never will. Almost everything myself and my peers watch is on the Internet--for free, or at least less than $10 per month (if you have Netflix or Hulu Plus) plus a broadband connection. Even most sports are now available live online for free via ESPN and other services.

  • BYU Track Star Los Angeles, CA
    April 8, 2013 5:41 p.m.

    With my Basic Cable and Internet bill over 100 Bucks per month in my part of So Cal, ENOUGH !! I'd be happy to return to the 7 or 8 Local Free L.A. Stations and ditch my Time-Warner Basic Cable. I also understand the Time-Warner non-sports-subscribers indirectly pay for professional programs although they can't view them. I miss the TV Antennae and Rabbit ears of my youth. I will start researching alternative to Cable TV. Solidarity to my Salt Lake Brothers and Sisters !!!

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    April 8, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    I worked a lot on cable tv issues when I worked in the Congress. The cable industry really took advantage of cities and subscribers. Now they are going to pay the price. If they want to continue to stay in business, they'd better bring down their prices and give better service. The same goes for satellite.

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    April 8, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Rock hit the reason. Why pay for channels I do now want? That is like going to a resturant and being forced to buy everything on the menu.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    April 8, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    I am 57 years old and have only subscribed to cable TV for 18 months of my life. I have a six figure salary so I can well afford it.

    I might actually get cable if I could get the local channels, Fox News, Discovery and History channels and one movie channel and ESPN. That is all I want. Cable companies force me to buy over 200 channels to get the six channels I want. I refuse to be manipulated. I cut the cord.

    I now have a Roku and subscribe to a movie streaming service. I also have BYU TV, The Mormon Channel and several other free, on demand streaming services. I get all the news, movies, TV and almost all the sports I want for under $7 a month.

    Cable TV will die a well deserved death.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 8, 2013 2:58 p.m.

    Most people just aren't aware of what's available off the air for free, often without a rooftop antenna. Broadcast digital tv is stunning in quality, far surpassing cable, and now features things like program directories. Not paying for TV is a vegas vacation a year for me.