This not about religion it is about artwork and freedom of conscience.So the left is claiming that seeing artwork will is an act of worship
and will convert those who view it?So imagery does influence
others?IS this not abridgement of free speech when you deciding
what artwork is allowable in "public" buildings?Who decides
what artwork is permissible?Are Christians not part of the public,
are they not part of "we the people"?Are they not allowed to
voice their views and opinions in the public square?Is "we the
people" only for the non-religious?
It is pure leftwing bullying. Obama and his cohorts have excelled in destroying
values many of us hold dear using political correctness and threatened lawsuits.
The total hypocrisy of the ACLU which would go to great lengths to allow a 12-15
year old girl girl birth control without parents consent: sue for removal of a
portrait of Jesus.
Would not this nation and the world be much beter if all people lived the gospel
of Jesus Christ and kept the Commandments of God? The willful Paradoxical
removal of the Ten Commandments from public courts is a surety that if these
commandments had been adhered to by all -there would be little need for courts,
lawyers, judges, prisons, law suits, death penalties, broken men and women, and
families. In ones opinion this is a darkening nation.
The founding fathers did not want a Church of the United States. Remember they
came from England which had the Church of England. Quit spatting about the
constitution if you don't understand what it means. The settlers of this
country were looking for many things including religious freedom. I for one
believe that the moral decay of this country (violence, drugs, etc) comes from
us seperating ourselves from God.
Another victory for the first amendment.Kudos to all involved.Let freedom ring!
I have pictures of Muhammad, Gandhi, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa,
etc. in my history classroom. They fit nicely alongside Einstein, Plato,
President Obama and Beethoven. Anyone got any complaints?
RPcasey001: Wow, anyone who is not a Christian has a low moral character?
I'll take my non-Christian moral character over your egotistically
embellished Christain character anytime!
Article title: "Ohio school says Jesus portrait will be taken down"And the persecution of Christians continues.....How long,
Lord, how long?
lost in DC,"It says congress shall pass no law concerning the
establishment of religion. By saying NO, the district is establishing a rule
concerning religion."If NO is not a correct answer to
"congress shall pass no law concerning religion," what would fit into
the parameters of this law? If a public school is ran by a zealous Islamic
principal, would it be ok for him/her to start placing their religious idols
around the school? Would you be defending their right to do so as you are
doing for chrisianity?
Which religion is being favored! Is it Christanity? Sorry folks, but that is a
philosophy. A religion is Catholic, Baptist, LDS, etc, etc,etc.
@Bob A. BoheySimply put, I am correct.@RanchWho uses a local building is irreleveant.@xscribeFederal funding should not matter, but you have demonstrated the evil of
letting the federal government into local concerns. Do we want federal control
over local schools? How much federal control do want over your life?
Whose life, Maudine,If you say NO to something, you are establishing a
rule concerning it. You are establishing NO as your rule.HS Fan,The constitution does NOT say “separation of church and state”.
It says congress shall pass no law concerning the establishment of religion. By
saying NO, the district is establishing a rule concerning religion.
Environmentalism is a religion of it's own.If we're to
take down portraits of Christ, then we do away with the philosophies of saving
For the "real" Christians out there... Keep in mind anything with MSN,
MSNBC, NBC, Bill Gates, or the like is liberal and very secular. There should be
no surprise that most of the comments on here are from lost, disenfranchised
Obama, his supporters (liberals and special interests), and people with low
moral character (non-Christians) are taking this country to its knees.
@Maudine;The answer is very simple: without their icons (pictures of
Jesus) and idols, they are unable to worship.
RE: the truth - Simply put you are incorrect.
Let's not say anything negative of gay marriage, or have portraits of
Christ on walls.Is this the transformation of our country?
It's called seperation of Church and State. More people need to stop
cleaning their guns and read more than just the 2nd amendment.
Why is this so hard to understand?Unless a school is willing to
allow any and all religious symbols and/or pictures, it HAS to be favoring one
religion over another.Isn't it just easier to allow none? I
thought schools were for learning and churches were for religion.
@ lost in DC: Huh? How does not having a picture of Jesus in a public school
interfere with your ability to establish a religion and worship according to the
dictates of your conscience?
To lost in DC"By requiring the picture be removed, the district
IS passing a rule concerning the establishment of religion."How?
the first amendment says congress shall pass no laws concerning the
establishment of religion. By requiring the picture be removed, the district IS
passing a rule concerning the establishment of religion. So this action is
@ nanato12: The religiousity of the Founding Fathers is not the same thing as a
national religion. We have no national religion and the First Amendment
guarantees there will be no national religion - this makes us a secular nation.
(There is a difference between a secular nation and a nation of
Hey Bob-I hate to tell you that this nation was not created as a secular nation.
If you read anything about the founding fathers, you know that this was a
religious based group and they relied on the inspiration of God to help develop
the Declaration and Constitution. I can't figure our where you get the
idea that this nation is secular. Read your history-starting with the book John
Adams, by McCullough.We are allowed and encouraged to worship, or at
least that was the idea. The ACLU wants no God any where. That is why our
country is going downhill so fast.
@the truth;Sorry, but as long as there are people of other or no
religion attending the school the picture shouldn't be displayed. School
is not a religion class, save it for church.
the truth, Are you saying there is no federal funding to that local school?
@Bob A. BoheyThis is NEITHER a secular or non-secular nation.It is nation that is a constitutional republic founded for the
reasons stated in the Declaration of Independence.If a local
community wants a picture Jesus in THEIR school there is nothing
unconstitutional about it.There are many depictions in art of
Religious figures and writings in federal buildings. The founding fathers who
wrote the constitution had no problem with it.It is very obviously
not unconstitutional.More importantly, a local school is NOT a
federal building, nor any type building of government, but a public
service payed for by the local community.but if it were federal or
government, as I have shown, it matters not.
Good for them!!
I hope and pray that an attorney will make the choice to work for free, and
fight this ludicrous lawsuit. The ACLU should be called the "Anti Civil
Liberties Union" because they are chipping away at all of our rights. They
want absolute equality for absolutely everything and everybody. They want to
erase all traces of Christian religion from American history, and pretend that
God and the Bible had no influence at all on the founding of this nation and its
earlier years under constitutional law, Christianity being the one and only
religion they hate. If there were a picture of Mohammed up there, or a Star of
David, there wouldn't be a peep from anyone. But a cross or a picture of
Christ? Forget about it.
Yes, the majority of American are religious. So what? No one is stopping you
from adhering to your religion. Does it take a picture of Jesus in your school
to keep you on the righteous path? Do you forget about Jesus (and God) that
easily if you do not see a picture of him? Read Baccus' post: I do not
believe Baccus is struggling with their beliefs because of this issue.
"This is an excellent example of liberal free speech!"Is
this another one? Google Santa fe Independent School district vs
Jane Doe."The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that prayer does
not belong in public schools, even if students initiate and lead the prayers.
""The students, one Mormon and one Catholic, and their
mothers were not named in court papers."
The ACLU has no opposition. They have money, power, prominence and passion.
There is no equivalent on the other side. Unless the religious majority (and
yes, the majority of Americans are religious, google it), but unless they
coalesce around an opposing union, then the minority will continue to determine
policy and practice in the US. All evil needs to win is for the good people to
do nothing. We stand idly by and watch the fabric of our society crumble.
The Nazis didn't need a court, lawyers or a constitution to act. They just
did what they wanted, usually in a violent way. Comparing this situation to
anything from that era is just another attempt to label the other side of a
controversy in the worst possible light. BTW, judging from his punctuation,
M-man is the one doing the shouting.
I revere Jesus as my savior, teacher and the son of God. In my house the
scriptures and his portrait are welcome. However, there is a distinction between
the privacy of my home and the halls of a public school.If the same
school were to have a wall of great men through out history of humankind, Jesus
should have a well deserved place among Plato, Zoroaster, Mohhammed, Leonardo Da
Vinci, ALexander the Great, Cicero, etc. etc.
This is great news. The democratic republic of the United States of America was
founded as a secular nation. Freedom loving americans should be thrilled to see
the constituion upheld in instances like this. Long live the secular democratic
republic of the United States of America.
This is an excellent example of liberal free speech! All others must be shouted
down, silenced and eliminated! Sort of reminds one of the Nazis doesn't it?
Very sad.Those same groups who oppose this portrait would fight to the
death to keep smutty books in the library.Tolerance and open-mindedness
are just catchphrases to the left.