Michael Gerson: GOP needs to find compelling message for voters

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  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 24, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    high school fan - are you under the impression Utah doesn't have an increasing government debt? You may want to look a little ways past the self back slapping rhetoric and look at the states debt numbers. Utah isn't all that much different than most states...

    A good start would be a balanced budget... but having one does not mean you don't have a government debt problem.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 24, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    "To "one old man" you realize that today's conservatives are not that different than the Founding Fathers. "

    This statement by its own virtue show a complete and total misunderstanding of who the founding fathers were and what they believed. Anyone who pretends that there was unanimity across the founding fathers grossly over simplifies the balance they had to achieve - and the miracle it was that they pulled off what they did.

    It is sad the history has been so rewritten and distorted to support mythical narratives.... that the work these men did is tarnish by such statement.

    Our founding fathers were not of one mind, or singular in their thought. Never were... and only exist so in the minds of those who the truth doesn't fit what they want to believe.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    March 22, 2013 10:30 p.m.

    Here is a compelling reason, utah is a great place to live because the state is basically ran right fiscally. The country though is a different story, if we maintain the current direction we will all be broke because the country will confiscate everything to try to pay the debt.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    March 22, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    Cheney is a darling of conservatives, but you won't admit he's one of yours. I find that interesting. I'm certainly not a liberal, so you won't find me defending either him or Obama. Who in you mind characterizes the conservative you're saying is like the Founding Fathers? Lives there such a person?

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 22, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    To "SEY" if Cheny is a neocon as you cliam, then I have no need to defend his actions. A Neocon is a liberal/progressive that believes in the military.

    Maybe you should justify Cheny actions since he is a liberal of a different color.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 22, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    RedShirt, the only place where today's conservatives are like the Founders is in the Fairy Tales of the Tea Party and other gullible people.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    March 22, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    Redshirt: conservatives are not different than the Founding Fathers? Of course they were not as united on their philosophies as many believe. Hamilton, for example, was profoundly at odds with Jefferson and Madison, among others in significant areas. But to equate today's conservative war-mongers with anti-colonial, anti-war and anti-interventionist early Americans requires one to believe in fables. Today's conservatives (Cheney, for a prime example) advocates foreign interventions, going "to the dark side," and ignoring federal debt. Can you possibly defend the policies of Cheney and other neocons at this point?

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 22, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    To "one old man" you realize that today's conservatives are not that different than the Founding Fathers. Are you saying that nothing good came from George Washington and Benjamin Franklin?

    To "Kent C. DeForrest" Bush was a progressive (liberal), not a conservative. If you think he was an extremist, what does that make people like JFK that were more conservative than Bush?

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    March 22, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    one old man:

    I agree. I voted for Bush once, but could see during his first term where the GOP was heading economically (and in other areas), so I could not in good conscience support the extremism that was entrenching itself. I am now unaffiliated, but I rarely vote for a Republican any more. I did vote for Gov. Herbert in 2008, but only because Pete Corroon's campaign turned so negative. I supported Cooke in 2012, and am glad to see this good man will be serving as a mission president for the LDS Church in July.

    I could never in a million years support a Mike Lee or a Jason Chaffetz or any of the cookie-cutter, rubber-stamp tea imbibers the GOP has been selecting as its poster children. Will its "brutal" navel-gazing produce significant shifts in its message? I doubt it. The best thing for the GOP would be to become totally irrelevant. Only then might it change its tune.

    Will Utahns ever wake up and recognize that they have been duped? Well, never say never. But they will be the last GOP holdouts, I predict.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 22, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    A good piece of op ed.

    There is nothing wrong with conservatism, but when it is taken to the extremes it now pushes, it becomes dangerous.

    I'm sure that many of us who are hatefully labeled as "liberals" are really moderate conservatives who have become completely disillusioned and disgusted with what we are seeing in the GOP now. I know that I fit that description.

  • watchman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 22, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    Nothing is being said about keeping the principles that are supposed to maintain a moral and financially solvent society. Too many people seem to be overcome with what the GOP can do or say to appeal to a broader spectrum of the voting public. The rhetoric seems to say there is no right or wrong anymore. They are just what we want to make them.