The 2013 session's legacy

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  • cns St George, Utah
    March 21, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    New To Utah has it about right
    Moving the prison might be the right and smart thing to do
    The problems is that the majority of Utah citizens just don't trust the legislature and Governor.
    We The People believe that "socialize expenses and privatize profits" is the unofficial working principle of our Lords and Masters in SLC

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2013 6:20 p.m.

    Their legacy is every accidental shooting my novice Rambos. Check out the story of a guy who shoot his baby while taking care of his gun in a motel. Any legislation resulting in unnecessary death is a perpetual legacy.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    March 18, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    Every year before the Legislature meets the D-News publishes a puff piece thanking citizens for serving in the part-time Legislature. Likewise at the end of the session it publishes another puff piece thanking them. I view the legislature differently. On the most important issues: air pollution,nothing; ditto for investigating Swallow on state law violations; same for expanding medicaid to cover the poor;$300,000 paid to a crony who isn't a federal lobblyst to prevent a wolf problem that does not exist; start the relocation of the prison, because private prison contractors and developers paid our legislators and want to cash in; no passage of legislative ethics. Box car bills are still routine and legislators with conflicts are required to still vote. Best run State? Scandals in the UHP and Dept. of Corrections; Lost medicare records and social security numbers; $13,000,000 scandal in UDOT; another stinker at Liquor Control;Retirement Systems undefunded; AG's office? yuck. I wonder what it's like living in the next best managed state.

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    March 17, 2013 11:18 p.m.

    I agree with the editorial - congrats to our lawmakers on a solid session. I am proud to be a Utahn.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    March 17, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    The passage of the prison relocation bill may come back to haunt not only the legislators
    supporting it but the taxpayers of Utah. The Public Relations has been ginned up to suggest that
    the prison is located on prime real estate land and that there can be this magical creation of 40000 jobs and $20 0r $30 billion of economic benefit. This is pure speculation and hyperbole not fact. The prison location may in fact be the highest and best use of the land. The cost of moving the prison and retraining perhaps the majority of the staff if the location is in Box Elder or Toelle county will be just the start of a major taxpayer boondoggle. The next is privitizing the prison will likely be a failure. The volunteers are crucial to the bringing inmates into society. Yes the powerful and connected have pushed all the buttons but the population seems skeptical and unconvinced so speeak up and don't get run over by the glitz and glamour of a new prison.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    March 17, 2013 3:51 p.m.

    The radical left complains every time any liberty or freedom is enhanced, such as on the gun issue. Sure, let's call the Utah legislature "wacky" and "crazy"...just like eight other states' legislatures that have gone even further than Utah in protecting 2nd Amendment rights. And 28 states' legislatures are also working on similar legislation. I guess they're all crazy.

  • Demo Dave Holladay, UT
    March 17, 2013 2:59 p.m.

    Please don't praise the legislature, it only encourages them.

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    March 17, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    The Utah State Legislature confirmed the "Gun nutty" environment of some Utahans. Destroying the requirement of getting a State Permit to carry a concealed gun is completely wacky. The Utah Legislature didn't defend the Second Amendment, they abused it. Stop and think, unidentified "gang bangers" will be able to legally carry their drive-by weapons; armed robbers can walk into stores with their hidden guns, and will only be in violation when they pull it on an clerk. Only a fringe element can not see the dangers this macho, nonsense, legislation has created. Giving the label of "Legacy" should be changed to "lunacy." Hopefully Governor Herbert will have the intelligence and courage to veto it.

  • Wasatch Al South Jordan, UT
    March 17, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    You would suppose one or two gun lovers in the legislature would want to destroy the concealed gun requirements, but to have a MAJORITY agree with them and put our and their own families in danger is unbelievable. They seem to think that gun worshipers are a majority of their constituents even that is not true. I hope someone runs against a few of them on this issue alone and they are soundly defeated.

  • DougS Oakley, UT
    March 17, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    What would more money do for education? Better paid teachers and administrators? How about returning to the 3 R's, stop teaching to the lowest level and leave sex education to the parents? Higher education? Many students would be better served by a Trade School as degrees mean little in the market place. "Social Engineering" has no place in the public education process. Move the prison? Why so much focus on "rehabilitation"? The only deterrent to crime is "punishment" Drug addicts need personal incentive to quit.. Criminals get little incentive to shun a life of crime through rehabilitation. So, move the prison, but change the policy to one of providing incentive for the inmates to stay clear of it rather than provide better medical care and housing than they will earn outside. I'd give the legislature a "C" grade on the past session. I'd give the governor a "D" if he vetoes the "Constitutional Carry" bill.

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    March 17, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    Well, this is a nice pat on the Republican back by an unbiased DMN. So, why is our public education system in such financial disarray?

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    March 17, 2013 7:10 a.m.

    Pity they didn't discuss anything about raising the minimum wage rate for the state. I wonder why?

  • EDM Castle Valley, Utah
    March 17, 2013 5:22 a.m.

    "Legacy"? I can't imagine the 2013 Session leaving a legacy - unless 2013 is included in the long history of arrogant one-party rule in Utah that might leave a kind of legacy for the history books, I hope. The whole thing is as boring and hapless and sorry as a Communist Party five-year plan.

    True, one-party rule has its benefits. "Well managed" and "efficient" are probably the right adjectives. But where did that get us this year? Better education? Come on, for all we have, our outcomes aren't great. Many, many places in the US do better than we do.

    Families? Hollow statements such as "I believe in the importance of family" don't do anything for anyone. By what real measures are families better?

    I applaud the hard work of our part-time legislators who - and there are many - really try to make a difference. But i can't let this opptimistic opinion piece slide. On the whole, we have an arrogant party that obstructs progress in favor of personal confirmation, and a government that deserves much less praise.