"I see lots of attempts from the left to influence Catholic doctrines but
never have I seen Catholics trying to force their beliefs on
non-Catholics"First, whats wrong with anyone, left or right
trying to influence doctrine? Good or bad, Catholics are not nearly as obedient
as the LDS. A good percentage of Catholics use birth control.Nothing wrong with making your views known.And, how is "the
left" pushing the Catholic church to include Contraceptive coverage any
different than the Catholic Church refusing to cover contraception for non
Catholics (or Catholics for that matter)? Couldn't that be perceived as
both sides trying to will their stance on the other?
@ atl134. I am not Catholic but as an outside observer I see lots of attempts
from the left to influence Catholic doctrines but never have I seen Catholics
trying to force their beliefs on non-Catholics. Case in point: Obamacare
mandates. Therefore, you have it backwards! You want religion out of the
government but you want government in religion!
@Mountanman"Why do those on the left demand that the Catholic church
change their position on same sex marriage, abortion, mandated birth control and
homosexuality but NEVER demand that of the Muslims?"There are
two categories of demands of this nature that people on the left make. 1. The more common one is the idea that the Catholic church should get out of
other peoples' business. Specifically they want the church to back off of
attempts to make gay marriage illegal in states and the nation. They don't
muchcare what the church itself does internally, they just don't like the
idea of a church imposing its' views on others outside the faith. Catholic
or non-Catholic liberals could be in this category.2. The less
common one comes from those who actually do want the Catholic church itself to
change to where it'll practice same-sex marriages. This view generally only
comes from Catholic liberals because they have more of a vested stake in what
their own church is doing as opposed to non-Catholics.Since
there's more Catholics than Muslims in this nation that's why you see
more of #2 directed at the Catholic church than Islam.
@Mountainman,Great point. I find the inconsistencies on the left
hilarious. Along similar lines, can you imagine a group deciding to do a play, a
la the book of Mormon, but a play on Islam instead, where many of their
"sacred' things are laughed at.I'm not Mormon or
Muslim, so I'd be fine with both. The left for some reason is only fine
with the former however. They'd be screaming discrimination if someone did
a play making fun of the Muslims.To my Pope, I say God Bless you and
you lead God's church!@Cleetorn,What a poor excuse.
So those groups who believe in conservative principles would be better off
becoming more like the Muslims in their approach to adherence to their beliefs?
You're rigth in that Christianity and Islam are comparable like a brink and
a pancake, but you're really not answering the question. Both groups have
similar beliefs in terms of homosexuality and abortion for example. The left
wants everyone to embrace Islam, but has as a main goal to fight against
religious conservatism. The left is so confused.
It truly takes a spectacular person to remain so humble after they have been
placed in a position of such power.
@ MountanmanIt's because the public at large directed by the media
moguls understand that many of the tenets the Catholic Church carries is not the
same as similar hard-core, immutable beliefs that more radical Muslims that are
generalized cling to. You're comparing a brick to a pancake.
@ One old man. We agree on something after all! But I have a question for you.
Why do those on the left demand that the Catholic church change their position
on same sex marriage, abortion, mandated birth control and homosexuality but
NEVER demand that of the Muslims?
How exciting. This will be a wonderful thing for the Catholic Church. I
totally agree with One Old Man's comment.Blessings to my Catholic
I'm not Catholic, but I wonder how much different the world might be if we
could find other truly humble men and women to lead all our faiths and national