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  • stevo123 slc, ut
    March 8, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    I want a complete audit of where that 300 K went. Mr. Dougal are you listening

  • Dektol Powell, OH
    March 8, 2013 7:09 a.m.

    What is wrong with saving the money and having the Elected Legislators do their job in preventing re-introduction rather than paying someone else to do it?
    Whose relatives would be 'hired' to whine in Washington about this?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Bring them back! Local ranchers anymore are just profiling at bars in Park City.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    March 7, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    @mountain man
    yellowstone biologist? You stated you have talked to them how about a contact name at least? surely if you have talked to someone there your can provide at least that much evidence. stop stonewalling with vague "I talked to a guy" references if you have proof to support your claims then lets have it.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 7, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    I don't know what the problem is. If Utah doesn't want the wolves, just put an open season on them without the requirement to have a hunting license. This is how we control the coyotes.

    There you go state legislature, a free solution for the wolf problem if they ever get to Utah.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    March 7, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    Ok, so wolves come in. Ok fine. Wolves attack cows or other farm animals. Farmers hunt them down and kill them. Wolves gone. Cycle starts over again.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    MM -- you mean the official Idaho Fish and Game website is lying?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 7, 2013 10:17 a.m.

    Old man. Not everything you read on the internet is truth.

    George: Please contact Yellowstone Park biologists about wolves as per my comments above.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    Real biologists? Hmmmmm.

    Then the ones who wrote those reports were not REAL biologists?


  • George Bronx, NY
    March 7, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    still waiting for some actual credible research instead of vague references to old hunting buddies mountain man.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 7, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    @ Earnest T Bass. There are no livestock on public lands here, its too mountainous. Yellowstone is different because it is a national park. There was a documentary recently on TV that presented an interesting phenomenon about wolves in Yellowstone, their numbers are decreasing rapidly. Reason: Too many wolves in close concentration with each other and they are infesting each other with mites causing them to loose their fur and they can't maintain their body heat in the winter and are dying off. Nature has interesting ways of reducing overabundance caused by over concentration. The researcher stated in the documentary that he was not sure what the future of wolves in Yellowstone will be because wolves are very gregarious, especially in smaller geographical areas (compared to the old west) and will probably continue to have problems with mites because they are over concentrated. There is the key: problem with wolves is over concentration compared to the old west. 200 years ago wolves were never been forced to such concentration but now they are and hence, their problems, including over predation on elk and other ungulates that are also concentrated. The biological need for the wolf has been replaced by human activity.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 7, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    Mountainman: Why are you feeding wolves? When running livestock on public land, then predation is the cost of doing business.
    The Yellowstone ecosystem is much healthier with wolves keeping the elk population in check. I realize hunters don't believe so, but biologist, the real experts, have the facts to back that up.
    Wolves and elk have co-existed since the end of the last ice age. Elk aren't going to vanish due to wolf predation.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 7, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    @ Old Man. Believe what you want, I don't care, but I know better because I LIVE here and spend a lot of time in the wild actually observing wolves and elk. The mountains here are nearly empty of elk now compared to what it was like before wolves. I have listened to real biologists and read their reports. I don't hate wolves, they are just doing what wolves do. I just miss the elk!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    MM -- I HAVE checked into your claims of what you say is happening in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.

    Care to guess what the truth really is? I could post links to the reports from the official websites of all those states' departments of fish and game, but DN won't allow links.

    Others who care to learn the truth may Google and learn the facts.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 7, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    Because whatever Don Peay wants, Don Peay gets. He's the hunting version of Gayle and the seagull forum.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    March 7, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    If you folks in Utah allow wolves into your state, you will regret it! $300K is only chump change compared to the economic damage they will inflict on your elk, deer and moose, just in the loss of tag and license sales. Don't believe it? Contact the wildlife biologists in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming! We have wolves running out our ears and are sick of feeding them!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 7, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    Well, how do you expect our legislators to frighten voters into voting for them if there is no Big Bad Wolf out there howling at the moon?