An ethical loophole

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  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    March 2, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    Add this problem to the long list created by our current legislature: It vigorously resists significant ethics reform, promotes secrecy, runs the state through closed Republican Legislative Caucuses, allows unlimited campaign donations, loves to run corporate-sponsored A.L.E.C. bills, writes new laws to restrict public input through initiatives and referendums, fires whistle-blowers, and dares to openly declare that we are not a democracy.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 2, 2013 7:32 a.m.

    Casual observer, may I say that ethics SHOULD NOT be optional. Unfortunately, that seems to be true in too many situations. And it seems that the more power a person possesses, the more ethically challenged most become.

  • casual observer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    So much indignation and pointing across party lines, so little self assessment. Ethics are conditional, illegal is statutory. What is ethical in Chicago may not be in Utah. The allegation that ethics are not part of the GOP (or the Dems if you are on the other side) is ridiculous and only further polarizes an already blindly partisan electorate.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    Good to see people expressing disgust with unethical behaviors of all stripes. I wrote to Bill Clinton and told him to resign when we found out about Monica.

    Now then, what say you folks about the way Utah got the 2002 Winter Olympics?

    How about UDOT's $13 million hushmoney payout to an angry losing bidder?

    How about the legislature's standing ovation for the legislator who went hot-tubbing with a 15 year-old girl?

    I'm all for a strict code of ethics enforced equally and regardless of political parties. In this state, however, it seems the magical "R" by your name provides a level of immunity to serious criticism of unethical behaviors.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    March 1, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    So what if the concepts of illegal and unethical are not co-extensive. Utah's AG should act legally and ethically. Swallow did not.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 1, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    As much as I hate to say this, I'm afraid I have to agree with JohnH.

    On the other hand, we had another administration that lied to us, took us to war, put it on the credit card, destroyed our economy and made a real mess of things. I'm afraid that when it comes to American politics there is more than enough sleaze to go around.

  • JohnH Cedar City, UT
    March 1, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    On the subject of legal versus ethical, perhaps a comparison between John Swallow and Bill Clinton is in order. As I understand the situation, what Swallow did was within the bounds of the law, but was probably not ethical. To use a common term, it doesn't pass the "smell test." Now consider Bill Clinton. What he did in lying under oath in a court of law was most assuredly ILLEGAL. His other actions with Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers,, may have been illegal but were surely unethical. Will John Swallow keep his job? Time will tell. Did Bill Clinton keep his job? Yes, and he remains a pillar of the Democrat Party. That says a lot.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 1, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    But ethics are not part of the Utah Values we keep hearing about. (At least not on the GOP side.)

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    March 1, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    Joe Blow-
    That's ridiculous to assume Utah's Attorney General would be a Democrat. Let's keep the debate within the guardrails of reality.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    March 1, 2013 4:37 a.m.

    OH NO,

    Another liberal media hit piece concerning Republican John Swallow.

    I believe that this is the 673 strait day of coverage on this story.

    Had Swallow been a democrat, we would not even know about it.

    (and yes, I often use sarcasm)

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    March 1, 2013 3:30 a.m.

    I am shocked, SHOCKED to find that there are corrupt Republicans in this administration!