@ worf: you appear to have commented on the wrong thread - this discussion is
about marriage, not the deficit.
Counting from one to sixteen trillion would take 534,000 years, and all the
commander can do is stress gay marriage?Failure is not an option,
and let's fix the problem. Reduce the debt, and put America
back to work.
If you all didn't want the Government spending time in this, you
shouldn't have passed unconstitutional laws limiting the rights if others.
The government is in disorder, Washington D.C. is dysfunctional, we are hearing
dire predictions of thouaands of civil servants facing furlough, public services
being cut, our military forces possibly having to protect this country without
adequate training or equipment ... and the Obama administration is spending time
that we taxpayers pay for, to have its legal counsel put on this act for the
Supreme Court.If my house caught fire, I'd concentrate on that
first and not worry about saving the curtains. I hope the ladies and
gentlemen of the court still recognize the separation of powera and will not be
taken in by Obama's attempt to coerce the judicial branch of our
government.P.S. We need to pray for the health of the justices
currently on the Supreme Court so at least some semblance of balance in
philosophies can be kept. At least pray that they will last four more years.
I guess a man who would take over a billion dollars of tax payer money for
vacations, and constant campaign trips, would come with something like this.
Some further info I just found on the net about amicus briefs filed on the Prop
8 case --1. there are now more than **100** signatures from
prominent Republicans on the pro-gay-marriage amicus brief that I mentioned
earlier. The number of Republican signers continues to grow.2. More
than 200 companies -- including some of the largest in the country -- have now
filed their own amicus brief in favor of gay marriage. The brief states, in
part, that DOMA “puts us, as employers, to unnecessary cost and
administrative complexity.” and "especially because contradictory laws
in different states complicate the administration of benefits for multi-state
companies". These companies are forced to have two separate systems for tax
withholding and payroll -- one for straight employees and another for gay
employees -- because of DOMA. And we already know that "separate" is not
"equal"!The brief also states that DOMA “forces us to
treat one class of our lawfully married employees differently than another, when
our success depends upon the welfare and morale of all employees” and
argues that discrimination undermines their business performance.
Just a coupla days ago, on Feb. 26, the New York Times reported that **75**
prominent REPUBLICANS have filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in FAVOR
of gay marriage. As reported in that article:"The
Proposition 8 case already has a powerful conservative supporter: Theodore B.
Olson, the former solicitor general under Mr. Bush and one of the suit’s
two lead lawyers. The amicus, or friend-of-the-court, brief is being filed with
Mr. Olson’s blessing. It argues, as he does, that same-sex marriage
promotes family values by allowing children of gay couples to grow up in
two-parent homes, and that it advances conservative values of “limited
government and maximizing individual freedom.""Legal
analysts said the brief had the potential to sway conservative justices as much
for the prominent names attached to it as for its legal arguments. The list of
signers includes a string of Republican officials and influential thinkers
— 75 as of Monday evening — who are not ordinarily associated with
gay rights advocacy, including some who are speaking out for the first time and
others who have changed their previous positions. " (NYT, dateline 2/25/13)
I'm glad we have time to worry about this and gun control. Hey Mr.
President and congress GET A BUDGET DONE. DO YOUR JOB! Quit the dog and pony
shows on issues that go nowhere. We are not distracted!
@drayBy who's definition, why do you get to dictate what the
definition of marriage is?
It's time to move forward and not back, it's the right thing to do.
Some might not like it, but many people have disliked many thing as we have
moved forward as a society. Marriage is marriage, two people in love is all that
@ Chris B.: On what grounds should it be illegal?
There is no more discrimination towards Gays as pertains to marriage than there
is to not allowing women into the men's room. If you read the sign, by
definition that is so, and so is marriage, it being defined as between a man and
a woman. There's no discrimination here, just clarity of boundaries that
give order and peace to mankind.
I'm not Mormon, but I'm with Mormon Prophet Monson on this one. He thinks it should be illegal. In addition to being wrong, he also
thinks it should be illegal. I'm with you Prophet Monson!