LouisD - you're wasting your time. As long as they and their friends
continue failing to gain admission to BYU, they're going to continue coming
around seeking validation...
Some observations are just pathetic. BYU began the infrastructure to
independence decades ago and solidified the option with the development of the
broadcast center. Most observers around the MWC knew years earlier that once
BYU put the new doors on the building the end was near. For some reason many
(not all) Utah fans believe BYU's move to Independence was "knee
jerk." There is nothing in BYU's business model that suggests the
University didn't know the end game or did not understand the paradigm that
was coming. If anything, BYU knew it well and had been in consultation with
Notre Dame (they acting as an advisor) and with ESPN (acting as both an adviser
and business partner). I think it is UTAH's fans that need to step back
and chilax a bit. BYU was planning Independence as a viable option
for years. UTAH was fortunate the PAC-12 was turned down by TEXAS. It worked
out well for everyone. But make no mistake about it, BYU is doing what precious
few school could ever do, and doing it successfully. That is something to
respect, not foolishly put down.
Aside from Chris B's continual drivel of anti-BYU rhetoric (is there
anything BYU he won't negatively comment on?) the fact is, much of the
Big-12 angst over BYUtv was equally rooted in similar concerns over the Longhorn
Network and Oklahoma's possible creation of a similar channel. While the
LHNtv has not really caught on anywhere except in Texas where 25 million people
live, Oklahoma is no bigger than Utah and does not have a world-wide attraction
or tie to it the way faith does. Faith is the glue that allows Notre Dame and
BYU to operate as independents and make a solid financial goal of it. We do know now after two years of participation with the WCC, that WCC schools
have not felt bullied by BYU and the regards of BYUtv have been good for them as
well. Every time a WCC team appears on BYU's WWN, it means more exposure
for those institutions, exposure it would otherwise never receive. In essence,
each WCC school has received millions of dollars of exposure value without cost.
Big-12 programs now see that which was not immediately evident two years ago.
Y's little brother: "BYU's move to Independence had been in the
planning stages for years. A state-of-the-art HD television studio hard-wired to
the Marriott Center and LaVell Edwards Stadium were already nearing completion
before Utah was even invited to the PAC 12.Utah's invitation to
the PAC 12 simply relieved BYU of the responsibility of looking out for little
brother and allowed BYU to pursue its own interests without having to feel
guilty about leaving little brother behind."You really believe
this, don't you. Yet, this article is about byu getting into a conference.
I would have to say that DeepBlue, Scott Farcus, and other posts above are less
than enthusiastic about the state of byu.
BYU seems to be doing just fine. I like independence and the WCC is a great
league to be a part of. Go Cougars!
Isn't it lucky for the U that the money the PAC 10.2 generates isn't
split between the schools by their conference won/loss records.
I wouldn't give up the TV either.
BYU is jumping over dollars to pick up dimes.Tier1. tier2, tier3
bologna, is not were the money is at.Holmoe need's to forget
about the HD truck and get BYU into a conference asap. The window is closing.There is more money in conference than alone with the keys to your
truck.Once the BCS conferences are aliened and your outside looking
in, BYU sports will fade away like Church Basketball did. Good Luck
@ SportsFan"Every big boy conference needs its whipping boys,
however, so you're filling an important role there. Colorado and WSU
appreciate the company".And BYU continues to fill their
important role of being Utah's annual whipping boy. Are you ready for
another beating for the fourth straight year and nine out of the last twelve
games?@ Y's little brother syndrome"Utah's
invitation to the PAC 12 simply relieved BYU of the responsibility of looking
out for little brother and allowed BYU to pursue its own interests without
having to feel guilty about leaving little brother behind".Ok,
if that's what you want to call BYU's obvious knee-jerk reaction.
Don't you think it's ironic for BYU to declare their independence two
months after Utah accepted their Pac-12 invite?
ekuteUnfortunately for U, Independence has been far more successful
for BYU, than PAC 12 membership has been for U.Every big boy
conference needs its whipping boys, however, so you're filling an important
role there. Colorado and WSU appreciate the company.
@ Y's little brotherYet the byu fans and local media continue
to speculate.Like I said...Keep telling yourself.
ekute"Yet the byu fans and local media continue to speculate. It
shows how much they regret they're knee-jerk reaction to Utah's
acceptance into the Pac12."LOL at your misguided hyperbole!BYU's move to Independence had been in the planning stages for
years. A state-of-the-art HD television studio hard-wired to the Marriott Center
and LaVell Edwards Stadium were already nearing completion before Utah was even
invited to the PAC 12. Utah's invitation to the PAC 12 simply
relieved BYU of the responsibility of looking out for little brother and allowed
BYU to pursue its own interests without having to feel guilty about leaving
little brother behind.
If BYU and ESPN could come to a mutually acceptable arrangement on third-tier
rights, it seems that BYU and the Big 12 should be able to reach some middle
ground that would be mutually beneficial.At any rate, BYU
shouldn't allow this to be a serious impediment to joining the Big 12.
Holmoe has always insisted "There has...been...no...offer". Yet the byu
fans and local media continue to speculate. It shows how much they regret
they're knee-jerk reaction to Utah's acceptance into the Pac12. They
should of stayed in the MWC with USU,BS,TCU,Nevada,etc. They would have AQ
status now. They say how great it is with byu tv and ESPN. Keep telling
yourself...I guess. Go Utes.
Question? Why cant BYUtv and Longhorn network buy some of the tier 3 games for
the other schools and show them? I am sure with at least the availability of
BYUtv that would seem appealing to some of the other schools and would save the
conference having to put a network and its cost, together. It would make a
little money for the Y and Texas and the schools involved in the telecast.
If giving up 3rd-tier TV rights were the only obstacle to gaining admission to
the Big 12, this should be a no brainer - do it.The only caveat
would be BYU retaining the rights to broadcast any events not picked up by the
primary 3rd-tier rights owner.
No need to even worry. The big 12 will never have to work around byu tv.The big 12 decided long ago, and continues to decide each additional
day, that byu is not worthy of an invite. Sorry.