German court strengthens gay adoption rights

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  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 6:10 p.m.

    @ Chris B.: That study found no significant difference between divorced heterosexual parents and divorced homosexual parents and had no comparison at all between married homosexual parents and married heterosexual parents.

    The author of the study admitted - in the study - that it had many shortcomings and should not be used when determining if same-sex couples should be allowed to raise children.

    @ banderson: When a woman chooses not to abort a fetus, but does not want to raise the resulting child, what options should she - and the child - have? By making adoption easier and more supported, we reduce the likelihood of abortion. When adoption is more difficult or limited, it raises the chances of abortion.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    Chris B: "Remember that recent study from the Social Science Research that concluded there are significant problems with homosexuals raising children:"

    Try these for comparison...
    Biblarz, TJ and J Stacey. 2010. How Does the Gender of Parents Matter? J Marriage Fam 72(1):3-22
    Stacey, J and TJ Biblarz. 2001. (How) Does the Sexual Orientation of Parents Matter? Amer. Soc. Rev. 66(April):159-183

    I presume that you are referring to the 2012 Regnerus study, that has been widely discussed and criticized (I won't say discredited, but where there's smoke...).

    As Ilana Yurkiewicz blogged at Scientific American, the problem arises with translating the Regnerus study into policy. Even if you accept its methodologies, data, and conclusions as 100% valid, it is useless as a policymaking tool without many other studies looking at other family types. So what if gays produce poorer outcomes than stable hetero two-parent families? Are they better outcomes than single-parent families? African-American parents? Indigent families? Substance-abusing parents? Agnostic parents? Teen parents? All of these people are allowed to marry and have children. The trouble with arguing that "gay parents aren't optimal" is that very few parents of any stripe are.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Feb. 19, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    Dear Chris B.

    We have going for years over the same arguments. You want statisticsplease refer to the many quoted by Pagan on this subject.

    I will not give you numbers, But, above I shared with you a reality, my own reality and actually the same reality that is shared by "all" the homosexuals couples with children I know.

    May be is the water in the East.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Truly amazing, in a world without regard to the most vulverable among us, the aborted child, we still herald as a great achievement that which defies God, as well as common sense. Governments, however, in the deepest quagmire of its musings, must be trying to figure out how to improve economic realities with the reality that gay marraige imposes--no children, no growth, and fewer jobs. The dramatic irony is watching the futility and purpose with such heralds, all in an attempt to find the very thing gays yearn for, belonging, family, and love.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 8:42 a.m.


    Unfortunately for you, they are not just my statements.

    Try and refute the reseach if you want.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Feb. 19, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Chris B.
    Here you go again....

    Most studies do not agree with your statements.

    My personal experience is that many years ago my partner and I adopted a girl who now is an intelligent, vibrant young lady. She has many friends and young suitors, she loves children and is geting ready to go to college to pursuit Medicine and Pediatrics. By the way, she is heterosexual.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 19, 2013 8:10 a.m.

    Remember that recent study from the Social Science Research that concluded there are significant problems with homosexuals raising children:

    "Among other things, they reported lower income levels, poorer mental and physical health and more troubled current romantic relationships. The study found 25 differences across 40 measures."

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Feb. 19, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    I know this will sound horrible to those who disagree with equating homosexuality and race discrimination as one and the same.

    However, to think that Germany under Nazi authority send Jews, Gypsies and Homosexuals to concentration camps and the gas chamber for considering them non-acceptable in society.
    To see Germany evolving to the stage of allowing civil Unions and Moving toward full acceptance under the law for adoptions, is extremely significative.